Re: Urban Institute study contradicts industry claims of poor math and science performance by United States students!

[quote]
"Interesting paper. It didn't seem very informative, though; it in
fact seemed inexplicably self-contradictory in many areas and for a
number of specifics."
[/quote]

Example?

[quote]
"I saw numbers that blew its conclusions away."
[/quote]

Example?

[quote]
"Depending on which numbers were chosen, that is. It seemed to pick
numbers that were intended to support whatever point was being made
in the current paragraph, and then it would use radically different
numbers in a different paragraph."
[/quote]

Er, example, maybe?

I'm not trying to be argumentative. I just didn't see any of the contradictions you are speaking of so I am curious as to what I missed...

~~ r


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SJL wrote:

See the full paper here:
http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/411562_Salzman_Science.pdf

Study Conclusions excerpted below.

Please don't hijack this thread with unnecessary rants, and don't

bother

commenting unless you have actually read the study at the link above.

To start some lively discussion (since this seems to be an
unemotional issue in an unemotional list)...

Interesting paper. It didn't seem very informative, though; it in
fact seemed inexplicably self-contradictory in many areas and for a
number of specifics. I could hardly make head nor tails out of it.

I certainly couldn't see anything in the paper that supported its
conclusions. I saw numbers that blew its conclusions away.

Depending on which numbers were chosen, that is. It seemed to pick
numbers that were intended to support whatever point was being made
in the current paragraph, and then it would use radically different
numbers in a different paragraph.

Very disturbing. Standard "think-tank think" stuff, it seems.

It almost seemed to be saying that what the U.S.A. ought to be doing
is investing more heavily in educating more immigrants. Weird.

Tom Liotta