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Wipro actually has consultants from 24 different nationalities working for 
them.  In fact, I
have a friend (white) I contracted with in North Carolina who was just hired by 
Miracle
Software Systems (an India based company) for a long-term contract in Hawaii 
where Miracle is
only making about a 10% profit and he will make a huge 6 figure salary each 
year!
  
As far as the AS400 / iSeries not doing well, it really depends on the are you 
live, your
skill level, how well you network, and in my personal opinion (my personal 
relationship with
God) who has proven time and time again that He's in control!
  
Jonathan
  
  
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  The $64 question is this: Would Wipro hire you if you applied for a job, or 
do they only    
  use their people? I don't think they exactly have an open hiring policy.      
              
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  Come on Don that's neither a fair statement nor accurate.  I understand that 
offshore       
  outsourcing has affected the IT community but it has nothing to do Bush nor 
does it have    
  anything to do with Indian's working for 12K a year.                          
              
                                                                                
              
  Before you criticize at least understand the shift within the industry.  
Don't get bitter,  
  get better.                                                                   
              
                                                                                
              
  I've worked directly with consultants from the world's largest offshore 
outsourcing         
  company, Wipro Technologies.  Just like any other company they have good, 
average, and      
  below satisfactory employees.  The company is an India based company and 
employs over       
  42,000 consultants worldwide.                                                 
              
                                                                                
              
  I understand US corporations have outsourced IT jobs causing many IT 
professionals to       
  reconsider their career paths.  No doubt this has had a significant affect on 
the US        
  economy.  Those of us who stick around should understand the offshore 
business; pros and    
  cons of outsourcing as well as the strengths and weaknesses offshore 
employees.             
                                                                                
              
  If you think the Indians have devestated the market leaving the US IT 
industry destitute,   
  look out for the Chinese who are coming in with bill rates even lower than 
the average      
  India based companies.                                                        
              
                                                                                
              
  I can't tell any of you a drop dead strategy for moving foward.  However, my 
personal       
  strategy is to continue to produce high quality, cost effective, and timely 
solutions to my 
  clients.....network like crazy....and partner with as many Indian companies 
that I can!     
   Call me crazy but if I know that Wipro just signed over a $3 billion dollar 
contract with  
  GM, I also know that they will need stateside resources for some of the work 
and trust me,  
  Wipro's rates stateside are compatible to any other mainstream consulting 
company (i.e.     
  TekSystems, Ajilon, Kforce, etc.)                                             
              
                                                                                
              
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  >Are you Indian?                                                              
              
  >Are you a recent graduate willing to work for 12 grand a year?               
              
  >If not, consider a position as a Motel 6 night manager. At least you can     
              
  >make 15 grand a year with shift differential.                                
              
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