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If you are looking at a new installation, you should check out the
advanced planning module they have added to XA and the paperless MES
package. If XA has a downfall for us it is the collection of data from
the floor and the scheduling control. We have molding, metal stamping and
assembly in our plants. Overall cost and ease of use XA is hands down the
best I have seen, but I should say that I agree with a prior post that
stated most of us have used XA for a long time (20 years) and have had
only some exposure to other packages.




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Thank you very much for the reply. Given my experience with four different
packages, I thought that Mapics was the best package overall for running a
manufacturing company. I am not worried about formulas and batching as
much
as changing the capacity available constantly with blocked off cavities
and
situations such as molds down for unscheduled repair as opposed to
scheduled
maintenance. I've used Mapics with molding once before but we only had 10
machines and I just built unlimited capacity and micromanaged the
schedules
on those 10 machines. We have 60 machines and 140 molds that we run 24/7
so
we need a system to help us schedule and cost while still being strong in
all other aspects of the business. We are asking for a site visit that
reflects as complex a production environment as we represent before making
a
final decision. We will take a look at the other packages you mentioned.
Thank you again and I appreciate any other insights you may have.

Jim Happ



-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of LeLeux, James
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:04 PM
To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion
Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Decision to buy XA

Jim,

Believe it or not you're asking a tough question.

Why - because many of us have been using MAPICS for a very long time,
and that presents two problems:
1. Our experience with other ERPS is limited and/or very dated.
2. Many of us work for conservative companies and our MAPICS
implementation
may not be what a new MAPICS customer would get today.

I know both are true for me. Although I work at another plant that uses
QAD
- character based. And another plant that uses Avante by Epicor.
So my QAD experience is not relevant, but I've seen the new version and it
is slick. Avante is interesting, but I think it has a lot lacking on the
backend and especially in the SOX arena.

Our MAPICS implementation heavily leverages Browser/Integrator, with and
without external programming. We have done some really cool things with
the
product.

But what is very critical, I think, is your reference to injection molding
and value added. That makes me think of formulas and batching that may
not
be a strong suit of MAPICS. Maybe others could comment on that?

You will also want to explore the web-enablement (supply chain / sales)
side
of MAPICS to make sure it includes what you need. I am lacking in this
area, so I'm not the best to comment on the current product.


I very much like the MAPICS product (warts and all) and enjoy the
stability
of the 400. I feel that Browser/Integrator has made the users more
self-sufficient, where other companies had to develop their own data
warehouse just to look at their own data. Hmm, build a DB to analyze the
contents of another DB - something weird about that.


I would very much like to learn more about Syteline. I suggest you do the
same.

If I really had the opportunity, I would check in with the open source
community to see where Compiere and OpenBravo stand. Are they ready for
prime time?


Now you've got two California XA replies - who says mfg is dead in CA?


Disclaimer: Insert Infor XA and ISeries where applicable!




-----Original Message-----
From: mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jim Happ
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:59 PM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [MAPICS-L] Decision to buy XA

I am a long time user of MRP software and used Mapics from 1982 - 1991. I
have subsequent 18 years with ASK, Data Works and DTR. Does XA compare
well
with other ERP solutions for mid size companies? Is XA a good fit for
injection molding with extensive value added?





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