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Greg,

We are in a similar situation, about 300 Mapics users across 3 business 
units and a staff of 4 with the same expectations that we have robust 
process, procedures, and evidence.  The killer for us has been retaining 
evidence.  As your noted there is one check list that works for 
everything, in fact one of our auditors carries around a worn spiral bound 
book that she calls the "SoX Bible".

I had another audit two weeks ago and the feedback I received was quite 
contrary, it appears as if they will become more aggressive and probing 
over time.

What a great way to perpetuate your position:  the more findings you 
generate, the more often you can justify an audit, the more findings you 
can generate.  Nice little "circle of greed".  ;)

Marc Rohde




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SEC released a statement last week which should give some relief to IT
departments if the auditors actually follow the spirit of the statement.

However I just talked to my auditor who said that without further guidance
he doesn't see much changing.

It's kind of like the fox in the hen house.  You can recommend that he 
stop
eating chickens.  The fox says 'but it is just a recommendation' and he
feels he can continue to do as he pleases.

Has any other MAPICS shops gotten any feedback?

I have less than 400 people in the whole company yet the auditors expect 
me
to have all the policies and procedures in place that a company the size 
of
Ford Motor Company would have.  He has one check list for all companies.

SOX is killing me,
Greg



 
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