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   message: 1
   date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:23:13 -0400
   from: "Shawn Thobe" <ShawnT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   subject: Question

   As you may have seen from some of my previous postings we are reviewing
   our MAPICS install and trying to make a stay or go decision.  

   I found another 400 based product that mentioned running up against
   MAPICS, CMS400, and was wondering if anybody has heard or used this.
   Hope this doesn't ruffle any MAPICS diehards.

   Thanks.

   Shawn Thobe

   Network Administrator

   Fort Recovery Industries Inc.

   419-375-4121

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   date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:43:39 -0500
   from: "Les Silies" <lsilies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
   subject: RE: Question

   I haven't looked at CMS400 for several years but in 1997 we seriously
   considered replacing MAPICS with CMS.  We had a team of accounting,
   production, information systems and engineering.  Our short list had 3
   AS400
   based solutions and 3 that were not.  There were many things about CMS
   that
   looked good. They were strong in automotive, more so than MAPICS.  My
   company is heavy into automotive.  Also, CMS appeared to be very easy to
   work with.  I spoke with many references.  One reference that converted
   from
   MAPICS.  With CMS I liked the fact that they didn't sell modules.  When
   you
   bought CMS you got everything.  We didn't need to address the
   justifications
   of incremental advances for MRP, PM, PM&C etc.  It was all built in.  The
   CMS people said they felt the complete ERP package was more efficient for
   them to support and increased customer satisfaction.  We selected them
   over
   the other 5 options including MAPICS.  Then. . . . .we had some sudden
   'negative' business changes at the eleventh hour of our review.  We
   decided
   to not make the switch and stick with MAPICS.  Ironically 7 years and
   several more business changes later MAPICS has proven to be capable.  

   If we were to evaluate ERP packages again, I would look at CMS again.
   However, what is good for me may not be for you.  Each company is unique
   and
   should define their own requirements and decide which ERP package is best
   for them.  One size does not fit all.
   Les

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   Subject: Question

   As you may have seen from some of my previous postings we are reviewing
   our MAPICS install and trying to make a stay or go decision.  

   I found another 400 based product that mentioned running up against
   MAPICS, CMS400, and was wondering if anybody has heard or used this.
   Hope this doesn't ruffle any MAPICS diehards.

   Thanks.

   Shawn Thobe

   Network Administrator

   Fort Recovery Industries Inc.

   419-375-4121

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