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Thanks Joan.....couldnt have said it better !!

Jeff Snyder,  CPIM
Mapics Consultant

ps: if i were as mismayed as Konrad, I'd surely find something else to do....seriously


From: "McCready, Joan" <Joan.McCready@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'MAPICS ERP System Discussion'" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: We go live one month from now... Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:29:24 -0500

Sheesh, Konrad... Who's been putting vinegar on your Wheaties lately?

Geoff, be grateful you are going live with Rel 6 - we went live with Rel 4
almost five years ago, total novices to MAPICS, had no idea it had so many
bugs. Every time I applied a cumulative PTF tape, MAPICS was almost unusable
for a couple of weeks while we found all the "new" bugs. I was told last
year by a MAPICS support line person when we were upgrading from 4 to 6,
that MAPICS Inc would be totally relieved when everyone was off of Rel 4!
Rel 6 is to Rel 4 like Win2K is to Win95 (IMHO)...

There are a few gotchas, but this list is a good place to find them... BTW,
apparently neither PTF level 3196 nor 4140 includes the logical files
created in SH61688.660 (ptf 3501), but they do include the new level of
program AMM53 - which we found out last night when the MRP run bombed!
Fortunately, I finally know how to apply a patch like this one without
getting dedicate mode! Not that we dare run MRP before tomorrow morning at
3:00 am (after backup) now...

We do run a few third-party add-ins (MDCC being the most important one), and
we have not had any problems. We run pure-plain-vanilla MAPICS - don't have
the source and don't want it! (If I had it, my users would demand that I
"tinker" with it so MAPICS "works" like the old system, even 5 years
later!!!)

Best of luck to you, Geoff - Joan

Joan McCready, IS Manager      phone:  636-479-4499
MetalTek International         fax:  636-479-3399
The Carondelet Division        www.metaltekint.com
8600 Commercial Blvd
Pevely, MO  63070


-----Original Message----- From: Konrad Underkofler [mailto:kdunderk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:02 PM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Subject: RE: We go live one month from now...


Geoff,


I am curious on the choice of MAPICS overall? Forced on you by a parent
company?

As far as implementation goes be aware of the gotchas all over the place in
functionality. Lots of gaps and bugs cripple what was a good design 15 years
ago. Most companies have developed in house code to shore up the weaknesses
or adopted third party products to patch things over. Given the declining
state of the third party providers and MAPICS Inc's relationship with them,
go with the in house solution if at all possible.

And of course.............GET SOURCE you will need it for many reasons.

Good luck!

Konrad

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Richardson [mailto:grichardson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:49 AM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: We go live one month from now...


Hi to everyone on the mailing list.


My name is Geoff Richardson and my company have spent the last 22 months
preparing to implement MAPICS XA 6.0  We are finally ready to go live at the
first sites.  I don't really have a specific question for y'all, but I would
be very interested to hear your memories, lessons, experiences and advice
relating to the implementation and roll out of MAPICS at your companies...

TIA,
Geoff

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