RE: Bellhawk planning and scheduling system

Hey Mapics, do you have your ears on?

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Kimray Inc.
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                    "Jeff Snyder"
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   I hope some MAPICS marketing folks are getting this input, maybe some of
you affiliates out there can share this opinion with your mapics  contacts.

thanks for the responds.  and Good Luck !

jeff






From: "Shrader, Patrick" <pshrader@wkep.com>
Reply-To: mapics-l@midrange.com
To: mapics-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Bellhawk planning and scheduling system
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:41:33 -0500

Amen! There are so many tools in MAPICS that are nice, and work very well.
However, MAPICS prices them so much more expensively than competitive
offline systems. I can hire an integrations team and pay for many years
worth of upgrades for the price of some of these MAPICS programs.


Patrick


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Wenzloff [mailto:GWenzloff@beckmfg.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:26 AM
To: 'mapics-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Bellhawk planning and scheduling system


Jeff,
Thanks for your input....  We looked at the additional MAPICS modules and
they are just too expensive.   Who has a quarter million dollars to spend
today?   We have been quite successful using MAPICS as the core system and
putting other software (which is reasonably priced) on the outside which
can
be easily customized.   Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Snyder [mailto:jeffreygsnyder@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:26 PM
To: mapics-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Bellhawk planning and scheduling system



   My conservative opinion would be to stay with in the mapics umbrella of
planning and scheduling systems.  There are many data elements that would
have to come into play from item masters, and On-hand balances, BOM(s),
routings, not to mention open orders , both customer, PO(s)  and
repelnishment shop orders.

mapics offers the std APICS type of planning for both Materials and
Capacity
as well as offerings for other philosophies, including theory of
constraints
APS, and PC  finite planning modules.
   I wont get into the differences of opinions of these philosophies, but
seems to me that Mapics has em covered, with the hooks in place.

   In my experience, (24 yrs working in mapics) I believe the difference in
those that are successful in their implementations from those that are
somewhat less successful have 1. A Bus plan.  2. decisive, measurable
goals.
(shared vision)  3.  Employee involvement and commitment (time set aside -
mapped out calander)  4. Education and training ( both in new vision i.e.
lean ? , as well as software)

Most companies are running lean , on Resources,   this seems to be the
single biggest impediment to the level of success.

   Sorry if I climbed to high on my soapbox, and got off track, didnt mean
to
offend.

Good Luck !!

Jeff Snyder,  CPIM
Ind Mapics Consultant



From: Greg Wenzloff <GWenzloff@beckmfg.com>
Reply-To: mapics-l@midrange.com
To: "'mapics-l@midrange.com'" <mapics-l@midrange.com>
Subject: Bellhawk planning and scheduling system
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:55:25 -0500

Hi list!

We are trying to evaluate a planning and scheduling system called Bellhawk
Lean Enhanced Advanced Planning and Scheduling System (BH-LEAPS).    If
anyone one the list has knowledge of this system and how well it can be
used
along side MAPICS please reply back to the list or directly to me.  We
welcome your comments.

Thanks in advance,

Greg Wenzloff
Beck Manufacturing
V4R4 XAR4
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