Re: Data Collection and Time & Attendance / HR - PERMS

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Roy,

Since 1993, we used Kronos for time and attendance and factory labor
collection, along with Kronos' attendant add-on packages for history and
reporting, and had found it to be quite reliable, and it handled all our
requirements.  It interfaced well (we interfaced in batch mode - I
understand it can do it realtime) with MAPICS and worked well for us.
However, upgrade and maintenanace costs (for us, at least) got to be too
expensive, especially the Y2K stuff, which they wanted us to do a complete
replacement of hardware and software to handle (over $100K for us!).  That
would have cost comfortably more than the entire initial project.

We very recently (went fully live earlier this month) completed an
installation of MAPICS' MDCC (formerly called Paperless Manufacturing and
Control, or PLMC), and so far are pleased with how it works.  One item to
keep STRONGLY in mind on this is system performance at the terminals.  We
opted for the graphical interface using touch screen PCs (the package uses
PowerBuilder), and it seems quite reliable so far, but we have some
response time issues that we are addressing by adding memory to our AS/400
(iSeries).

If you use the PowerBuilder version on the clients there are very limited
"tailoring" options; it covers about anything needed for standard MAPICS
use, but you can't add fields and such to displays.

We are also very interested in implementing some of the more advanced
capabilities for our manufacturing floor, such as I/M back flushing
inventory to operations and such.

We have no HR requirements at our company beyond keeping records of hours
worked and jobs worked on, so I can't comment on any of that.

Hope this helps some!

Dale Gindlesperger
IT Manager
Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc.






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To Whom It May Concern:

We are in the process of reviewing different packages for Data Collection
and Time & Attendance - DCSI / HIGHJUMP and HR - PERMS.  Our company is
currently running Mapics/DB, with the old DCSI and PERMS packages and we
are
planning to implement Mapics/XA in the next year or so.  In preparation
for
that we are looking at what packages are available and the consensus of
users and their thoughts who have implemented or used the newer DCSI /
HIGHJUMP and PERMS packages or other packages, and why they choose them
over
HIGHJUMP and PERMS.  The current versions of these packages are ridiculous
and riddled with problems.  So we are looking for as many opinions on the
Data Collection, Time & Attendance and HR systems - as possible.


Roy W. Thorn III
Director of Information Technology
Contact me at roy.thorn@ablemfg.com <mailto:roy.thorn@ablebodycorp.com>
Check us out on the Web at www.ablemfg.com <http://www.ablebodycorp.com>
417 623-3060  Ext.-216
417 850-1694  Cell

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