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On 17/02/2009, at 3:14 AM, Joe Sam Shirah wrote:

Thanks to both you and Simon. I was hoping that there was something
that would give the base WebSphere activity level or threads given some
load. Then I could add an educated guess for the number of users.

See the Performance Capabilities Reference--Chapter 6 covers web server and WebSphere performance. Also mentions the Systems Workload Estimator but that's usually for sizing an appropriate system rather than tuning performance on a given system.


I will look into the Web Performance Advisor.

Didn't know about that tool.

I am monitoring the threads entry that QPRFADJ makes. As a fallback, if
necessary, I will use the value differential when we move WAS from *BASE.
While I believe Simon's thread/job explanation, I think this is like some
other areas of the AS/400 in that I'm not sure that's the entire story. For
example, QPRFADJ currently has things at a little over 300 for *BASE
activity level. The application supports around 2000 users, and WAS all by
itself runs many threads. I realize the significance of *concurrent*
threads, but still...

It is not necessary to have an activity-level for each active thread-- only for those actually doing work. Inactive threads (i.e. those waiting for something to happen such as I/O) can be paged out. Examine the transitions Active->Wait, Wait->Ineligible, and especially Active->Ineligible.

Also, is all your work occurring in *BASE? If so that's not a good idea. Better to separate workloads by performance profile (e.g., batch, interactive, web, communications, etc.). *BASE should be left for the subsystem monitor jobs, some IBM jobs, plus as a pool of available storage for the Performance Adjuster to move storage into and out of.

If you've already moved workload out of *BASE then that will help explain the activity-level of 300. Note that the system is very good at managing main storage, as long as you have sufficient to avoid thrashing, so it's certainly possible that 2000 users could be supported by 300 activity-levels but I suspect you have work occurring in other pools.

Regards,
Simon Coulter.
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