Re: Tomcat vs. Websphere (was: JAVA400-L Digest, Vol 4, Issue 224) -- JAVA400-L

Hello All,

Just to add another voice to the chorus...

We're an ASP and we run our webapp on Tomcat (on Linux) w/ DB2/400 onthe backend. Like Bruce we've been doing so since version 3; weactually moved from WAS 3 into Tomcat at that time and haven't lookedback. Tomcat is a workhorse, and in all the time we've been using itwe've never had single issue caused by or directly related toTomcat. The thing about Tomcat is that it follows the UNIX-ishphilosophy of doing one thing -- serving Java webapps -- and doing itextremely well. (In more recent versions they've added some otherminor services to Tomcat's functions, but only insofar as they wererequired to host those webapps.) The self-contained nature of Tomcatworks very well with the self-contained nature of .war files to allowyou to just drop those pieces into a server and go. Ourprovisioning time for a new server (after OS) is about five minutesincluding the time to add the server to our failover cluster.

The only caveat to all of the above is naturally that if you needmore than just a servlet/JSP container, you'll need to go beyondTomcat... but if you end up choosing and open source app server (suchas Geronimo, JOnAS, or JBoss) you'll probably still be relying onTomcat for that piece of the pie anyhow.


t.

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Tamas Perlaky
Integral Group Inc.

www.commercedesktop.com -- hosted, integrated, multiplatform EDIsolutions


On 21-Sep-06, at 5:27 PM, Bruce Jin wrote:

Hundreds of our customers use Tomcat. (A few uses Websphere). Although
they don't get support from Apache they call us if they have a problem
with Tomcat. Actually most of them download Tomcat from our server.

A few good things about Tomcat:

   1. Very easy to set up and to use.
   2. Very reliable. We have used it since pre version 3 before it was
      named Tomcat.
   3.  Requires very little horse power. People put it on all kinds of
      servers (can be a big AS400 or a tiny $200 PC) and run our
      applications off AS400 data through JDBC.

 Regards
Bruce
http://www.mrc-productivity.com/







Holden Tommy wrote:

LOL this place is much the same David...open source = da debil


Thanks,
Tommy Holden


-----Original Message-----
From: java400-l-bounces+tommy.holden=hcahealthcare.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of David Gibbs
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:09 PM
To: Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400
Subject: Tomcat vs. Websphere (was: JAVA400-L Digest, Vol 4, Issue224)
Kelly Cookson wrote:
Tomcat is definitely a good servlet engine. But our managers won't
authorize production use of any 3rd party application without a
support
package to back it up. If we have a problem with Tomcat, we wantto be
able to pick up the phone, call support, and say, "How do we fix
this?"
This is the biggest stumbling block to all open sourceapplications in
our shop.
Had a funny discussion with someone at COMMON this last week ... they
were telling me about a customer of theirs didn't allow any opensourcesoftware installed on any systems. Apparently, this includedembeddedsoftware too. They had a conniption when they found out that WDSCwas
based on Eclipse and the intranet system they bought was based on
Tomcat.

david

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