RE: Java Servlet v CGI Bin

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Bruce

I'm not surprised you can't spot any difference just by looking at the two
technologies - At a single user load, the timing differences will be
microscopic. You would need to be load testing with a few hundred users to
really notice much difference.

IMHO a well written Servlet/JSP app, making good use of connection pooling,
should be at least as efficient as an RPG/CGI app, and a lot easier to
maintain. Via stored procedures it's easy to access back-end RPG code, if
required.


Chris.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Bruce Jin [mailto:JIN007M@hotmail.com]
Sent:   30 April 2002 19:48
To:     java400-l@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: Java Servlet v CGI Bin

This is a V5R1 on 9406-270 box with 1 G RAM. I don't know how to look up CPW
number. If you let me know I will get it for you.

Servlet runs on any other platforms too. I copied the same application to a
Linux box and have the application access db2 on the AS400. This linux box
is a P5-110 (one can get for $30 from ebay). The performance is good. I hope
you can see it over internet. (I access it in LAN using a different IP).

http://64.1.140.182/employees/servlet/MRCSRVDEMO.I00220s

Bruce

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From: <Don_Burdette@payrollpeople.com>
To: <java400-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Java Servlet v CGI Bin


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> Just out of curiosity, what hardware are you running all this on?  The
> performance is really good. I wish ours was that good, but we only have an
> AS/400 with a CPW of 210. The performance is really bad. I was looking to
> upgrade the system this summer, but I am not sure about it now since IBM
> in their infinite wisdom decided not to release a new hardware for the
> middle tier servers. Oh well.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Donald Burdette
>
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> "Bruce Jin" <JIN007M@hotmail.com>
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> I found on earlier models of AS400 RPG CGI seems to out perform servlet.
> With V5R1 I can't really tell the difference in simple applications. Here
> are RPG CGI and servlet applications that both access db2 locally. Can
> anyone notice the difference using the internet access?
>
> RPGCGI: http://www.crazybikes.com/I00090GC.mrc
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> Servlet:  http://www.crazybikes.com/servlet/MRCSRVDEMO.I00220s
>
> Bruce
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Stone" <brad@bvstools.com>
>
> > Deja Vu!  Hi Derek!
> >
> > If XML/SOAP and using a DB on a Win2000 server is a
> > neccesity (as opposed to using the AS/400 as the DB server)
> > then, as stated on the newsgroup, Servlets are the way to
> > go.  But, be prepared for a steep learning curve for Java,
> > XML, SOAP, Websphere, etc.. etc... as you mentioned
> > previously you had little to no experience with any of these
> > (on the newsgroup, not here).
> >
> > You also possibly may have other options (thinking outside
> > the box).  Mirroring the data to the AS/400 and accessing it
> > directly using CGI or Servlets/JSPs.  Will definatly take a
> > layer of complexity out of it (eliminating XML/SOAP) and
> > still allows you to choose CGI or Java.
> >
> > As for speed, Mike, it's all relative.  Worst case CGI vs.
> > Best case Java, Java will win hands down.  But that's not a
> > fair fight to begin with, although the most commonly used
> > comparison of the two by Pro-Java (again, I'm not anti-Java,
> > just sticking up for the little guy..hehe).  But if RPG had
> > "containers", it would rock!  ;)
> >
> > Without knowing more details about your project (this is a
> > very vague description, and "forces" technology instead of
> > finding the right technology to solve a problem) it's hard
> > to give a really good answer that you will be happy with.
> >
> > Brad
> > www.bvstools.com
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:46:15 -0400
> >  "derek o'connor" <derek_o_connor@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > we are currently in the design phase of a new projcet for
> > > the as/400. the new
> > > system will be accessing a SQL Server database on a
> > > windows 2000 box. we are
> > > looking at XML & SOAP via HTTP to send the data to the
> > > AS/400. therefore on
> > > the AS/400 side we will need to accept the data and parse
> > > it out to be written
> > > to the DB2 database.
> > >
> > > my question is should i go in the direction of a CGI-Bin
> > > program or Java
> > > Sevlets. reading the documentation, points out that
> > > CGI-BIN programs are
> > > platform dependent if written in RPG. But what if i wrote
> > > the CGI program in
> > > Java. In this case what is difference in doing this
> > > versus a Servlet and is
> > > there any advantages to either method.
> > >
> > > any help would be appreciated
> > > derek.
> > >
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