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Chad, 

We just finished our annual  Disaster Recovery Testing at IBM. We were 
able to restore the entire primary Domino iSeries system in 10 hours from 
our backups.  We have over 800 GB of data on each side of the iSeries 
Domino Cluster. The only thing we needed to configure after a full 
system restore was the ethernet lines.     I was in and out of IBM  in one 
day, with spare time to play 9 holes of Golf.  :) 

We run a large Cluster of Domino Servers and we  use BRMS to Backup the 
Domino Databases. 
Our main iSeries hosting Domino is backup up fully weekly, using the BRMS 
version of Option 21. 
 We do our daily backups on the secondary iSeries,  for the domino 
databases only and I run the exclusions list weekly as well so we have all 
of the files
such as the notes.ini .   We can restore the secondary from our daily but 
is requires additional configuration which I try to avoid.

Domino Transactional Logs are running in Circular mode and use BRMS save 
while active feature with the Domino APIs,
 so there is no downtime on the secondary iSeries system for Domino. 

In fact we can run the BRMS jobs during the day and have it set to do 100 
databases concurrently. 

We now use BRMS for everything. It creates great reports, and makes it 
easy for us to  "show" the business how we can easily restore the systems. 


I would recommend BRMS to anyone looking for a more reliable way to 
automate backup and recovery. No more writing CL programs that can easily
and restores are a breeze as well. 

Regards, 

Sean 




http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com



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   1. Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
   2. Re: Cluster backup ideas (Chris Whisonant)
   3. Re: Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
   4. Re: Cluster backup ideas (Chris Whisonant)
   5. Re: Cluster backup ideas (ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)


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message: 1
date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:58:05 -0400
from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Cluster backup ideas






We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s.  One
Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps.
The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted 
to
the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc.  All mail
and application databases are replicated in the cluster.  Configuration
changes for the servers are VERY rare.


Our current backup strategy is:

-Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per 
month

-The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV
command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only missing
some Websphere logs, etc.  In other words, Domino is getting saved fully).

-The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a daily
basis.



Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are
working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well enough.
We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino server
from the nightly backup.  We are thinking that we would restore the backup
Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things
repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases.

Is this a valid strategy?

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date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:58:10 -0400
from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas

That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the 
nightly IFS saves (IMHO).

Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool?

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s. 
One
> Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps.
> The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted 

to
> the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc.  All mail
> and application databases are replicated in the cluster.  Configuration
> changes for the servers are VERY rare.
> 
> 
> Our current backup strategy is:
> 
> -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per 
month
> 
> -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV
> command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only 
missing
> some Websphere logs, etc.  In other words, Domino is getting saved 
fully).
> 
> -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a 
daily
> basis.
> 
> 
> 
> Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are
> working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well 
enough.
> We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino 
server
> from the nightly backup.  We are thinking that we would restore the 
backup
> Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things
> repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases.
> 
> Is this a valid strategy?
> 
> 
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message: 3
date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:06:01 -0400
from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas






Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly.

Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it when
setting things up initially...
 
             Chris Whisonant 
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That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the
nightly IFS saves (IMHO).

Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool?

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM:

>
>
>
>
>
> We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s.
One
> Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few apps.
> The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as restricted
to
> the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc.  All mail
> and application databases are replicated in the cluster.  Configuration
> changes for the servers are VERY rare.
>
>
> Our current backup strategy is:
>
> -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per
month
>
> -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV
> command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only
missing
> some Websphere logs, etc.  In other words, Domino is getting saved
fully).
>
> -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a
daily
> basis.
>
>
>
> Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are
> working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well
enough.
> We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino
server
> from the nightly backup.  We are thinking that we would restore the
backup
> Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get things
> repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases.
>
> Is this a valid strategy?
>
>
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message: 4
date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:08:38 -0400
from: Chris Whisonant <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas

I was thinking you could restore what you needed to the backup from the 
primary that's saved nightly.

The analysis tools checks for replica existence, consistent ACL, etc...

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
08/17/2005 09:06:01 AM:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly.
> 
> Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it 
when
> setting things up initially...
> 
>              Chris Whisonant 
>              <Chris.Whisonant@ 
>              comporium.com> To 
>              Sent by:                  Lotus Domino on the iSeries / 
AS400 
>              domino400-bounces         <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>              +chadb=wheeling-n cc 
>              isshin.com@midran 
>              ge.com Subject 
>                                        Re: Cluster backup ideas 
> 
>              08/17/2005 08:58 
>              AM 
> 
> 
>              Please respond to 
>               Lotus Domino on 
>                the iSeries / 
>                    AS400 
>              <domino400@midran 
>                   ge.com> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the
> nightly IFS saves (IMHO).
> 
> Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool?
> 
> Chris Whisonant
> Comporium
> Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
> IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
> IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
> 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
> http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/
> 
> domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
> 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s.
> One
> > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few 
apps.
> > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as 
restricted
> to
> > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc.  All 
mail
> > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration
> > changes for the servers are VERY rare.
> >
> >
> > Our current backup strategy is:
> >
> > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per
> month
> >
> > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV
> > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only
> missing
> > some Websphere logs, etc.  In other words, Domino is getting saved
> fully).
> >
> > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a
> daily
> > basis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are
> > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well
> enough.
> > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino
> server
> > from the nightly backup.  We are thinking that we would restore the
> backup
> > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get 
things
> > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases.
> >
> > Is this a valid strategy?
> >
> >
> 
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message: 5
date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:21:12 -0400
from: ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
subject: Re: Cluster backup ideas






Gotcha... restore the DBs to the backup server from the main server's save
(same replica ids), right?  That would be another option, I guess...

When we do a monthly test, we leave the main server down for a day and
generally see things replicate back pretty quickly... I just want make 
sure
this would hold true after a restore from an earlier backup.


 
             Chris Whisonant 
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             +chadb=wheeling-n                                          cc 

             isshin.com@midran 
             ge.com                                                Subject 

                                       Re: Cluster backup ideas 
 
             08/17/2005 09:08 
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             Please respond to 
              Lotus Domino on 
               the iSeries / 
                   AS400 
             <domino400@midran 
                  ge.com> 
 
 




I was thinking you could restore what you needed to the backup from the
primary that's saved nightly.

The analysis tools checks for replica existence, consistent ACL, etc...

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/

domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
08/17/2005 09:06:01 AM:

>
>
>
>
>
> Agreed, but the backup server isn't getting the IFS saved nighly.
>
> Refresh me on what the cluster analysis tool does... I think I ran it
when
> setting things up initially...
>
>              Chris Whisonant
>              <Chris.Whisonant@
>              comporium.com> To
>              Sent by:                  Lotus Domino on the iSeries /
AS400
>              domino400-bounces         <domino400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>              +chadb=wheeling-n cc
>              isshin.com@midran
>              ge.com Subject
>                                        Re: Cluster backup ideas
>
>              08/17/2005 08:58
>              AM
>
>
>              Please respond to
>               Lotus Domino on
>                the iSeries /
>                    AS400
>              <domino400@midran
>                   ge.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That sounds pretty good, though it may be better to restore from the
> nightly IFS saves (IMHO).
>
> Just also wondering if you have run the Cluster Analysis tool?
>
> Chris Whisonant
> Comporium
> Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
> IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
> IBM Certified System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6/6.5
> 803.326.7270 | 803.326.6142 fax
> http://cwhisonant.blogspot.com/
>
> domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
> 08/17/2005 08:58:05 AM:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We are running a cluster with 2 Domino servers on 2 separate AS/400s.
> One
> > Domino server is our 'main' server and is used for mail and a few
apps.
> > The other Domino server is our 'backup' server and is left as
restricted
> to
> > the users unless we are switched to it on a monthly test, etc.  All
mail
> > and application databases are replicated in the cluster. Configuration
> > changes for the servers are VERY rare.
> >
> >
> > Our current backup strategy is:
> >
> > -Both AS/400s are saved with an Option 21 full system backup once per
> month
> >
> > -The main Domino server is shut down each night and saved with a SAV
> > command against the entire IFS (we check the results and are only
> missing
> > some Websphere logs, etc.  In other words, Domino is getting saved
> fully).
> >
> > -The backup Domino server runs continually and is not backed up on a
> daily
> > basis.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now that we're up and running well on this cluster and switchovers are
> > working well, I want to verify that this scenario should work well
> enough.
> > We are very comfortable with being able to restore the main Domino
> server
> > from the nightly backup.  We are thinking that we would restore the
> backup
> > Domino server from the monthly Option 21 and let the cluster get
things
> > repopulated in the backup Domino server's databases.
> >
> > Is this a valid strategy?
> >
> >
>
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