Re: Sametime

Hello Rob,

v6.5.2 is the version currently up.  Within a week of the upgrade, about 3 
weeks ago,
was the last time the mail.box gave us a problem.  In all fairness, I 
suspect that it 
inherited the problem from the previous version, v6.5.0

As far as spam and the like, I handle dead mail with replication setting, 
space savers
and toast any over 48 hours. This means at any given time, there are from 
600 to
1200 dead messages in each of the two boxes.  When I had domino doing 
inbound 
SMTP direct from the internet, I used DNS black list, that help allot. Now 
with a spam
filter taking all inbound SMTP, I can't use it, but still use the 
verification that the user
exists.  The problem is that all bounces and such that the spam filter 
make are sent 
to domino for outbound SMTP routing...  So it's rather pointless.

My company leases molding machines, punch presses and things that have a 
30
year useful life..   We buy IT hardware that I would like to see cycled 
every 3 years.

Such is life  <sigh>

Bob Terry







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Forgive me if I missed it in the thread, but what version of Domino are 
you having this corrupt mail.box issue on?  That sounds somewhat familiar 
but way back in the fog of time.  Another issue I used to have with 
mail.box was spam going to invalid addresses at our domain.  Upgrading to 
R6 and using the option to reject invalid addresses was a godsend.

And a 7xx box is old.  And while you may perceive that it runs the rest of 

your business well you'd be amazed how the newer technology will run it, 
and take on new workloads, like Domino, websphere, etc and really shine.

We upgraded from our 7xx to an 840.  The 840 has now been replaced by a 
570.  And, having a 30% reduction in force throughout the whole company 
within the last year does not put us in the place to throw away money.  We 

are saving a bundle of money on maintenance costs, etc.  We were able to 
drop from a P50 to a P30.  We always lease.  We don't want to get stuck 
with 6 year old hardware.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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Chris,

The 400 performs well overall. It's running current OS
and has all new drives and memory a plenty.  I like
the box.  Domino has been problematic in the sense that
mail(x).box becomes corrupt every couple of months 
for no obvious reason.  That obviously sends the router
into a major fit.  HTTP task hangs every now and again.

That said, I would not try to support 10,000 users on a 
wintel farm.  We don't have 10,000 employees, let alone
users.   Simply that domino on the 400 has been a bit 
problematic when compared to the other platform I have
to deal with.

Bob Terry





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I would advise moving onto a current iSeries platform before saying that 
Domino is problematic on the iSeries.

Would you run your Domino on a wintel server that is 6 years old and 
expect the same performance/stability as running it on a wintel server 
made in the past year or two?

Chris Whisonant
Comporium
Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6
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> > I run Domino on a 400 and a windows box.  I built a 
> > second domino on the Windows box (I guess my config
> > is unsupported) that is independent of my mail server
> > and dropped Sametime on it. My Domino/Sametime 
> > server is in the same Domino Domain. We don't use LDAP.
> > I would like to, but we are a small shop and have never 
> > taken the time to learn how to set it up. 
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> > Anyway, Sametime works OK.  Most users do not use it.
> > I use it the most for support via the sametime meetings.
> > That is truly the god send the application has been for 
> > me.  As I expose Sametime to the Internet, it is just so frigen
> > great to be able to call a vendor and have them come in 
> > and see my screen and help me resolve problems.  For
> > the IM part, there were only a couple of people (that I am 
> > aware of) the got pissed when I started blocking AOL IM some
> > time ago. They now use ST and like it fine. We just don't
> > have the whole IM culture.
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> > I now will rattle the cage a bit.  Domino on the 400 has been 
> > problematic at best. I would not recommend putting Domino
> > on the platform. Sametime, no frigen way.   That said, I am 
> > not a window$ bigot or even someone who likes NT.  But my
> > experience says that Win2K server is an awesome platform for
> > running Domino. Rock solid
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> > As I am now in the process of replacing WinNT 4  with IBM iSeries
> > running Linux, and plan on moving Domino there.
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> > We went the option 2 route and has worked well so far in a small 
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> > We use the IM part of Sametime extensively, the Meeting part 
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> > although when we have used the remote screen capture capability it has 




> > saved us much time/effort in remote troubleshooting.
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> > Gotchas ???   Make sure LDAP is running OK before setting up Sametime. 




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> > accessing remotely, numerous firewall ports that need to be opened.
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> > have a Domino server, version 6.5.2 on an I-Series. Which of the three
> > methods did you use to implement:
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> > ? Set up a new Domino server in a new Domino domain (*FIRST), and add
> > Sametime to that server.
> > ? Add an additional Domino server to an existing Domino domain (*ADD), 




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> > add Sametime to that server.
> > ? Add Sametime to an existing production Domino server.
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> > >From reading the Sametime install guide, option 3 is not a good 
choice.
> > Option 2 sounds like what we would explore.  Keeping maintenance to a
> > minimum is a big factor in our choice.
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> > Any advice for getting Sametime up & running? Any "gotchas" on 
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> > the product?  Do your users like Samtime or is it not used very often?
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