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Re: the increasing militarization of domestic police



<13 million job seekers, 3 million open jobs >

Ah, yes, those Trillion dollar hand-outs really got the economy moving.
Looks like the only thing that was stimulated was democRAT bank accounts.
The only other thing that could have been stimulated was the community being
screwed over . . . again.


Norm Dennis

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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dick Martin
Sent: Monday, 6 February 2012 3:38 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] the increasing militarization of domestic police

13 million job seekers, 3 million open jobs. Yupppp.... all those 13
million people need to do is try harder. Somehow magically 3 million jobs
will be enough for those 13 million people. Its all so simple, don't you
see?

See, those 13 million people don't really want jobs ya know. They are lazy
louts, only fit for government work, and thank goodness we are firing
government workers at a grand pace now. Those damned teachers, don't cha
know. They are the cause of all of our troubles. If we can get rid of
them, all will be well.



On 2/5/2012 10:14 AM, Wayne McAlpine wrote:
There wasn't enough Viagra in reserve to allow the Tea Partiers to
commit sexual assaults.

On 2/5/2012 7:01 AM, rick baird wrote:
but he's a moderate extremist. just ask him.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Norm Dennis<nhdennis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Remember that you are responding to an extremist.

Norm Dennis



----- Reply message -----
From: "rick baird"<rick.baird@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, Feb 5, 2012 10:26
Subject: [CPF0000] the increasing militarization of domestic police
To: "Open discussion among iSeries Users"<cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

An Occupy demonstrator murdered his aging hippy parents recently
because they wanted him to get a job instead of attending Occupy
Oakland.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/30/BA9P1N08
9K.DTL

but it's right wing monsters you're worried about. There wasn't a
single Tea Party murder in two years of demonstrations. The body
count for Occupy is approaching 10 after only a few months. Sexual
assaults, rapes, beatings, and arrests on Occupy are in the hundreds.

Who are the monsters?

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Dick Martin<ofpgmr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Really? Right wing Lutherans shooting children, doctors being
killed in the name of a greater justice, votes taken to deny health
care to children, votes taken to deny housing, food, and health
care for the elderly. You believe those are not the actions of
monsters?

On 2/4/2012 5:11 PM, Paul Nelson wrote:
Right wing monsters? That's certainly not being a moderate.

Paul Nelson
Office 512-392-2577
Cell 708-670-6978
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dick Martin
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:09 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] the increasing militarization of domestic
police

Please explain to me why this upsets you, yet on many other
occasions here you have made it clear that we need more arrests,
harsher penalties, and more policing efforts? You have generally
defended police actions and blamed those who complained of being soft
on crime.

This makes two issues where I have been totally surprised in the
past few weeks that we are in total agreement, yet my positions
haven't changed. Yours and Rick's positions have changed.

Maybe now we can find some common ground and push back against
these right wing monsters who believe they have the answers and
that we must submit to their will.







On 2/4/2012 7:45 AM, sjl wrote:
I was occasionally playing in poker tournaments at an underground
[illegal]
establishment in Dallas back in 2006. On a Tuesday night, I
played in a tournament there; On Friday night of that same week,
I saw on the news
that
it had been raided by a Dallas SWAT team...

- sjl



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/police-militarization-u
se-of-forc
e-swat-raids_b_1123848.html?page=1
[...]

According to Eastern Kentucky University criminologist Peter
Kraska, the number of SWAT raids carried out each year in America
has jumped dramatically over the last generation or so, from just
a few thousand in
the
1980s to around 50,000 by the mid-2000s, when Kraska stopped his
survey.
He
found that the vast majority of the increase is attributable to
the drug war -- namely warrant service on low-to-mid-level drug
offenders. A number of federal policies have driven the trend,
including offering domestic police departments military training,
allowing training with military organizations, using
"troops-to-cops" programs and offering surplus
military
equipment and weaponry to domestic police police departments for
free or
at
major discounts. There has also been a constant barrage of
martial
rhetoric
from politicians and policymakers.

Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train
them in military tactics, tell them they're fighting a "war," and
the consequences are predictable. These policies have taken a
toll. Among the victims of increasingly aggressive and
militaristic police tactics: Cheye Calvo, the mayor of Berwyn
Heights, Md., whose dogs were killed when Prince George's County
police mistakenly raided his home; 92-year-old Katherine
Johnston, who was gunned down by narcotics cops in Atlanta in
2006; 11-year-old Alberto Sepulveda, who was killed by Modesto,
Calif., police during a drug raid in September 2000; 80-year-old
Isaac Singletary, who was shot by undercover narcotics police in
2007 who were attempting to sell drugs from his yard; Jonathan
Ayers, a Georgia pastor shot as he tried to flee a gang of
narcotics cops who jumped him at a gas station in 2009; Clayton
Helriggle, a 23-year-old college student killed during a
marijuana raid in Ohio in 2002; and Alberta Spruill, who died of
a heart attack after police deployed a flash grenade during a
mistaken raid on her Harlem apartment in 2003. Most recently,
voting rights activist Barbara Arnwine was raided by
a
SWAT team in Prince George's County, Md., on Nov. 21. Police were
looking for Arnwine's nephew, a suspect in an armed robbery.*

The drug war has been the primary policy driving the trend but,
since
2001,
the federal government has also used the threat of terror attacks
to
further
militarize domestic law enforcement. This includes not only
finding new sources of funding for armor, weapons and gear, but
also claiming new
powers
for the "War on Terror" that are then inevitably used in more
routine law enforcement.

But paramilitary creep has also spread well beyond the drug war.
In recent years, SWAT teams have been used to break up
neighborhood poker games, including one at an American Legion
Hall in Dallas. In 2006, Virginia optometrist Sal Culosi was
killed when the Fairfax County Police
Department
sent a SWAT team to arrest him for gambling on football games.
SWAT teams are also now used to arrest people suspected of
downloading child pornography. Last year, an Austin, Texas, SWAT
team broke down a man's
door
because he was suspected of stealing koi fish from a botanical
garden.



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