Why is having the plan through a former employer more portable than
having the plan directly, with grace periods, etc.?
Paul Nelson wrote:
Portability.
Paul Nelson
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
So?? What is the benefit to anyone of what you propose? Why not just
require insurers to carry the person as an individual? nbd.
Paul Nelson wrote:
That's right. Booth, what's your next idea?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
And you have to pay 100% of the premium, your share plus the employer's
share.
Paul Nelson wrote:
COBRA only last for 18 months.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces+nelsonp=speakeasy.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces+nelsonp=speakeasy.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:15 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
?? Would you expect Employer A to continue the subsidies he paid when
the person worked there?
btw COBRA does what you suggest, more or less.
Paul Nelson wrote:
...
I would prefer that if a person acquires a health plan that suits them
via
Employer A, and they move to Employer B, they could keep paying into the
insurance company who works with Employer A.
...
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On
Behalf Of Wayne McAlpine
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:52 PM
To: cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
The U.S. spends more per capita on health care than any other country in
the world, yet our health outcomes are at the bottom of the heap among
the industrialized world. Does that sound like what's best for the
system, our children, the country as a whole, and the greatest number of
its citizens? Take the blinders off, Rick, and acknowledge that the
current system is broken.
You say that democrats simply ask, "What's in it for me?"
People like you, however, are proud to say, "I've got mine, so screw
everyone else."
I view universal basic health care as an obligation that government must
assume sooner or later, preferably sooner. Conservatives will be
dragged, as they always have been, kicking and screaming into the 21st
century. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's going to be an
absolute necessity if our industries are to remain competitive globally
with those in countries where they are not burdened with exorbitant
private employee health insurance costs.
Further, I view universal health care as one of the most liberating
programs for individual growth and freedom. Individuals could market
their skills without regard to a lapse in health insurance, take a
year's sabbatical if they so chose, retire early without having to wait
for Medicare to kick in at 65.
It's an idea whose time has come. This is a battle that you and your
fellow libertarians/conservatives are not going to win.
rick baird wrote:
Shorter boofy: Rick and Paul are lucky, they survived life
threatening diseases and can afford to pay upwards of a $1k a month
for health insurance. They're only being selfish because they like
paying that premium for high deductable catastrophic insurance.
The bottom line is that Paul and I are only interested in what's best
for the system, our children, the country as a whole, and the greatest
number of it's citizens. Boofy, like most democrats, is only
interested in "what's in it for me?"
next.
On 11/21/07, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am self employed, just like you and Rick.
You are covered by Medicare and Medicaid, unlike me and Rick, so you
are
actually better off than we are.
I have never received a nickel of inheritance.
I pay a pretty penny for my medical coverage.
Next.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
Its easy to be a pompous bastard when you can afford it, Paul.
Half of America is below average and didn't have big inheritances and
plum jobs, like some.
Paul Nelson wrote:
I survived the Big C. I'm almost 6.5 years post op. No recurrence.
I have other arrangements for coverage. Why don't you? You do believe
in
personal responsibility, don't you?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:02 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
A few people close to me are, yes. Not me. However I am high risk
and
uninsurable at regular rates for other reasons.
So, the Republican Plan would leave Rick and me uninsured. Rick
doesn't
care, but I do,
Paul Nelson wrote:
Are you a cancer survivor?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
So.. please explain what you want to do, Paul?
My own reaction is that if you can ride the illegals wagon into a
discussion of health care, then probably talking about cancer
survivors
isn't really off topic, either?
Paul Nelson wrote:
Here come da hoop. Here come da hoop. Oh yeah, here come da hoop.
With apologies to Dan Rowan, Dick Martin, et al.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:10 AM
To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Subject: [CPF0000] Republican Health Care proposals leave gaps
"... Republicans want to expand the existing private insurance
system,
offering new tax breaks as a way of helping people buy insurance
individually. But they also want to avoid federal regulation that
would
tell insurers whom they have to cover and how much they may charge.
That means the self-employed and others seeking individual coverage
would be subject to a marketplace in which insurers generally pick
the
healthiest applicants and turn the rest away. Cancer survivors --
even
if they have been free of disease for several years -- are
routinely
denied health insurance when they try to purchase it as
individuals.
..."
http://tinyurl.com/22el2s
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