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Re: Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan



Does it happen in Illinois, either Paul? Or are you just repeating really old myths?

If it does happen, back it up. Show some evidence of it besides your gut feeling.

Paul Nelson wrote:
Now you're being goofy, Boofy.

One cannot really appreciate the state of things in Illinois until one has
lived there and been a part of the process.

Things like that taking people from polling place to polling place in buses
so that they can vote more than once just don't happen in Vermont or
Oklahoma.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:17 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

Sure it can happen, Paul. But did it? Gerald said he saw it. He also said he was a pole worker. Any one that works the pole at a topless bar is to be believed I suppose, even with absolutely no corroborating evidence? Why?

Paul Nelson wrote:
You're right I apologize. Gerald did say he saw unregistered people be
handed ballots. Wayne claims that this was not possible. You don't believe
Gerald, because you have never seen it happen, and Wayne says it can't
happen. Therefore, it did not happen.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:04 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

No, Paul, we were not talking about paper ballots. Gerald says he saw unregistered voters vote, and their votes were counted. Thats what we were talking about.


Paul Nelson wrote:
We were talking about what happens with paper ballots. Keep up or drop
out.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:56 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

You have seen unregistered voters vote? You know they were unregistered because??? And you just watched, said nothing to a poll worker? That is very unlike you, Paul.

Paul Nelson wrote:
I have, John Jones has, Wayne has.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:41 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

Please show some support for this, Gerald. No one has seen this happen as a general rule, excepting you.
Gerald Magnuson wrote:
Wow,
Wayne do you look around and see what actually happens at a polling
place?

We have paper ballots. For some strange reason, our punch card ballots
were taken away back in 2001.....

The completed ballot is scanned for accuracy and deposited in the lock
box, to be counted later...


Gerald Magnuson



-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Wayne McAlpine
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:20 PM
To: cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

It's a provisional ballot, the only paper ballot you're likely to see
at
a polling place these days. And in all but a handful of states they only apply to federal elections. There is strict accounting of the ballots and a paper audit trail. Remember that there are poll watchers

at every polling place and a system that is pretty good at eliminating fraud. The days of ballot box stuffing are long gone.

Gerald Magnuson wrote:
I'm talking about enforcement, the same thing you _repeatedly_ say
that
people ignore (although YOU are ignoring that fact....)
-I have seen many times, a person has been given a ballot, when their
name is not on the roll. (yes, I know, the ballot is put in a stack,
to
be counted later. REALLY? Have you ever seen a "separate stack" of
ballots, waiting for review? Does it have the persons name on it? )


If you haven't seen that, we are at one of three places:
You NEVER have voted -or-
You are truly oblivious of things around you (the more probable) -or-
You are being disingenuous with you're arguments....



Gerald Magnuson



-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:46 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Gov Spitzer drops illegals license plan

huh? What rules are made at the polling place Gerald? Someone can
walk
in on voting day, with their name not already on the rolls, and vote?
The 30-day requirement is not valid? Not enforced? What, exactly, is
that you can attest to?

Gerald Magnuson wrote:
I can attest to the rules are made at the polling place, not at the
county courthouse, not in Springfield, and Certainly not in D.C.




Gerald Magnuson







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