But boots,
Why are you picking on Armitage,
I thought you were going to have Rove, "frog marched" out of the White
House?
Yet again, another delusion, thinking that number 2 at State is more of
a risk than the National Security Advisor.
Gerald Magnuson
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:32 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Oops.
I describe Armitage as a stumbling clown? That is the stance you are
taking, not me. I consider his actions to have been purposeful,
vengeful, and aiding and abetting our enemies.
rick baird wrote:
The way you describe Armitage is exactly the way the Clintons describe
Berger.
Stumbling clound who doesn't know what he did was a crime.
thanks for playing.
On Nov 12, 2007 5:03 PM, Terry Richardson <terry-sssc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Of course he is a member of the team. He is being held up to be a
bumbling stumbling clown who doesn't know that what he did was worse
than just a slip of the tongue. "oh, my, goodness gracious, I guess
I
should have not done what I did." Give me an effing break. This was
orchestrated at the highest levels of this administration. Absolutely
no
doubt in my mind (or ANY intelligent person's mind) about this. But
you GOP sheep just go on and defend it. You all make me sick to my
stomach. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, but you haven't an
ounce of personal character , so you can continue to excuse these
actions and this behavior by the people at the highest positions of
power in this country. You all are beyond reprehensible.
To use Paul's cutesy little phrase, "O&O"
Booth Martin wrote:
I am saying that Armitage *is* a member of the GW team. Was it his
idea
or someone else on the team? Who cares. The team knew it was
happening
and made no effort to stop it.
rick baird wrote:
Armitage was the first. The others were answering questions from
reporters.
Are you saying Armitage did it at the behest of the white house?
On 11/12/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did you actually read your link? If so, how can you conclude that
the
White House was not involved? All four of these people, everyone
of
them, were key people on the GW Team. At least, according to
*your*
link they were, Rick.
"...A year ago, Armitage publicly apologized to Plame and her
husband.
The former No. 2 State Department official remains the only
principal
in
the leak to have done so.
At least three one-time administration officials in addition to
Armitage
discussed Plame's CIA status with reporters. They are former White
House
political adviser Karl Rove, Vice President Dick Cheney's ex-chief
of
staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former presidential press
secretary
Ari Fleischer.
Armitage and Rove were the sources for a 2003 newspaper column by
commentator Robert Novak that disclosed Plame's CIA employment.
Novak's column came out eight days after Plame's husband, Joseph
Wilson,
said the administration had twisted prewar intelligence to
exaggerate
the Iraqi threat. .."
rick baird wrote:
This just in today:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hOVmnMwLkjokxPMSuDKwFkmUNGMgD8SRRFU80
Armitage admits he was the one, and didn't do it at Cheney's
behest.
He was
a frequent and vocal Iraq War critic, who worked at the state
department,
not the white house.
I don't know how many times you have to read the truth before it
sinks in.
there are none so blind who will not read.
On 11/12/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, Rick, nothing Berger did, or attempted to do, affected the
hearings
in any way.
But accidentally committing treason is excused because it was an
accident. I see.
rick baird wrote:
Armatage outed plame, not at Cheney/Rove's bidding, and not to
punish
her,
but because he was a gossip.
Rove and Libby only confirmed the identity when asked by
reporters.
Berger deliberately stole and destroyed classified documents to
obstruct
a
senate investigation.
On 11/12/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Go ahead Rick. Make the case about how what Berger did
compares
in any
way to the seriousness of outing Valerie Plame. Go ahead.
rick baird wrote:
still is.
On 11/12/07, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
C'mon, Booth. Your defense of Berger was so fervent you were
practically
coming all over yourself.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Oops.
Nah, I never claimed he walked on water. But he's managed
to
take a
small and stupid mistake and let it be blown into a clownish
affair
by
Republicans. Why is it clownish?
Because it was an incident of no risk to the country, yet
Republicans
have been able to use it to show that outing Valerie Plame
and
shutting
down an intelligence disinformation operation against Iran,
allowing
the
Iranian nuclear program to pick up speed and tempo, was no
where
as
serious as Sandy Berger making some photocopies of, and then
destroying,
notes from meetings during the Clinton years.
Its cartoonish.
Paul Nelson wrote:
You were claiming a year ago that Berger walks on water.
What
changed?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:59 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Oops.
No way. Rove is/was effective, Berger has turned himself
in
to the
Class Clown. How many Bergers can they squeeze into a
volkswagon?
Paul Nelson wrote:
There's a pattern developing here that leads me to believe
that
Sandy
Berger
is going to become the new Karl Rove.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
]
On
Behalf Of rick baird
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:54 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Oops.
twice in two days?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310417,00.html
On Nov 11, 2007 9:48 AM, Paul Nelson
<nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Oh, alright. Sorry Mrs. Clinton.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Chuck Lewis
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:42 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Oops.
Hey guys, lay off - it wasn't Clinton that did it but
someone
that
WORKS for her; sheesh. You have to know that the only
time
that a
person is responsible for those that work for them if his
name is
Bush
- I learned that from BWR. LOL !
On Nov 11, 2007 9:17 AM, Paul Nelson
<nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Heh.
<< The campaign's admission that it planted the question
may
be
another
blow
to the New York senator's image as a trustworthy
politician.>>
Isn't the phrase "trustworthy politician" an oxymoron?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On
Behalf Of rick baird
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: [CPF0000] Oops.
Clinton campaign admits to planting audience member
question
about
global warming at Iowa town hall meeting.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,310316,00.html
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