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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of rick baird
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:43 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Indianapolis - Ballard grabs upset win in mayoral
race
How did the elections go in your neck of the woods?
On 11/7/07, Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's widespread throughout the state.
If you know where to look, you can find my property tax bill online.
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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rick baird
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:04 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Indianapolis - Ballard grabs upset win
in mayoral race
You don't understand the problem. it's not just that there
were reassessments, they changed all the rules for how they
were assessed.
Lets say you buy a 20 year old property, and it's appraised
tax value has only increased, say, 20% over those 20 years.
You enter a large mortgage for it, and can afford the
expected slight increases in taxes.
Just as the real estate market collapses, the government
change the rules on you and now your assessed value doubles
or triples, and you're now stuck with a property that you
can't get what you paid for it and a property tax bill that's
$300 a month more than it was last year.
Make no mistake, the above is NOT a rare case. It's
widespread throughout the county.
Could you afford an increase of $300 a month in property
taxes? all at once?
On 11/7/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Property taxes are designed to be calculated on the fair
market value
of the property. In that way, every property pays "their
share" for
city services. The system has merit. With most general
reappraisals
everyone's fair market value rises, so their proportionate share
remains relatively the same, unless the values were
disproportionate
in the first place. The adjustments generally are slight.
As to special favors for those that don't sell.. why? Why
should they
get favors when another couple the same age sells and then buys a
smaller place? If your city want to give seniors a break, fine.
There are mechanisms for that. But punishing those that
move is not
the answer, is it?
You speak of wanting to be fair, but your system is
extremely unfair.
rick baird wrote:
On 11/7/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Really? Then the gross revenues to the city rose
sharply? I ask
because I did a stint working with tax appraisals, etc. and the
scream always was "that everyone's taxes went up" when
in fact the
revenues were fairly neutral. What did happen was that
those who
hadn't moved in
35 years, and not been reappraised, had been riding the
easy train
for years while newer property owners overpaid their share.
The sales tax increases were to pay for the new NFL stadium and
convention center expansion (which I supported). In the
mean time,
the crime rate, especially the murder rate went up during
his tenure.
they consolidated the county sheriff and city police
force, and no
one is happy about that - all neighborhood beats got all new cops
who didn't understand or know the people there. tons of
money was
spent on cosmetic changes (new uniforms, patrol cars and
standardization of all equipment, while the actual number
of cops on
the street went down.
But the property taxes were the big deal that got
people's attention.
I'm surprised to hear you say that they deserved what they get.
many of those 35 year residents are now retirees on a
fixed income who've
had their monthly expenses rise $300-600 a month. Since
the taxes
are so high, the actual sell price drops like a rock and if they
can't afford the increase, they have to sell the home in a poor
market and take a huge loss.
how well could you handle that? how well could your
mother? what
do you say to gramma? sell your home of 35 years at a loss, and
take your lumps because you've been riding high on the
hog for so long?
how compassionate of you.
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Booth Martin
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