No one said that Wal-Mart pays only minimum wage. Wal-Mart pays
competitive wages. Let me ask a second question? Do your daughters get
good health care benefits at an affordable deduction from their pay
checks? That is of course the thrust of the discussion where Wal-Mart
was mentioned.
DebraKelemen wrote:
Wal-Mart doesn't always pay minimum wage. In fact my oldest & youngest
daughter both work there and make way more than minimum wage.
Someone has to stop spreading that misconception about Wally world.
Deb
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:58 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] For those that worry about our veterans...
OK, then we are talking. Thats a good sign, eh?
Can we divide the discussion into two categories?
1- I would propose that one category be the delivery of services as it
is already de facto universal and at the least, adequate. I believe
there are many things we can do to improve that, including getting
family care out of the E/R rooms. However, in general, no wholesale
changes are needed in m opinion.
2- Paying for the care is, it seems, the BIG issue. I would like to
broaden the pay-in base to include the minimum wage employers like
Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Wendys, and most of the rest of the minimum wage
employers. What is your position on this, Paul?
Paul Nelson wrote:
I'd like a lot of changes. I just don't care for the ways that have been
proposed to fund them.
I sure as heck don't want a system like Canada, Indonesia, India, Japan,
etc.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces+nelsonp=speakeasy.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces+nelsonp=speakeasy.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:53 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] For those that worry about our veterans...
Well, it has seemed to me that have been quite clear that any changes
are wrong and will not get your support. Maybe you are in favor of some
changes? If so, perhaps you'd list a few of them? I am wondering if in
fact we are very far apart on this issue.
Paul Nelson wrote:
Absolutely. Did I say otherwise?
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:51 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] For those that worry about our veterans...
Those people are not counted in the 12% Paul. But what interested me
was the following: "... A 1996 law opened VA care to all veterans, with
a $50 co-pay for those were not classified as poor. But in 2002,
regional directors were told not to market enrollment to new veterans
because demand was exceeding resources, according to a department memo
quoted in the journal article. Then in 2003, enrollment was halted for
most veterans without qualifying medical conditions or incomes. ..."
So, the GW team, the people that tell us that they are the ones that
care, are the ones that stopped enrolling veterans and then halted the
program all together. That doesn't bother you, Paul?
Paul Nelson wrote:
Go back and read the article. If they are over 65 or are making < $30K,
they
can walk into the VA for treatment.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:59 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] For those that worry about our veterans...
Where, Paul? Where would they get it? And how? that 12% you talk
about it is making no money, or poverty level money. So where do these
veterans go, Paul?
I can tell you. They go to the ER, just like the other uninsureds, and
you and I pay for it with our premiums.
Paul Nelson wrote:
The answer is "Bite me".
The 12.5 % number is about par for the course, and mirrors the rest of
the
population. If they're under 65 and working, they should have health
care
available to them elsewhere.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:37 PM
To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Subject: [CPF0000] For those that worry about our veterans...
"... Most Americans might think that veterans automatically have
healthcare from the government, but one in eight working-age veterans
is
uninsured, a study from Cambridge Health Alliance reports. ..."
http://tinyurl.com/23hf8s
So... the reason that Veterans don;t have health care is because:
a- they don;t work hard enough.
b- they don;t deserve it.
c- they aren;t American enough
d- all of the above
So, you Republicans and Conservatives, what is your answer?
