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Re: Water heaters



Rock. One can only dig down a few inches before one hits a layer of rock.
Bust it up, dig a few more inches, and then another layer.

It's like the shale we had to deal with while building roads in PA. The
cutting edges of the scrapers had to be replaced almost weekly. Once in a
while, there was quicksand under a layer of shale if there was a spring
close by. It's pretty weird to see the dozer pushing you thru the cut start
to sink out of sight.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:01 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Water heaters

Because of the soil, or the rocks. Paul? I discovered here in Oklahoma
why there is the word sodbusting. I'd never seen anything like it.
Digging with a shovel is nearly impossible unless the soil is soaked;
then it digs like wet beach sand.



Paul Nelson wrote:
If in Texas, you may have to drill and shoot small charges to get your
post
holes created. Make sure you use a steel cable woven mat to keep things
from
flying.

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Terry Richardson
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:34 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Water heaters

Regarding the fence, voice of experience here... Don't try to be a hero
and dig the holes by hand. Go rent a power auger and save your self
hours of aggravation, especially if your soils are hard or rocky.



Michael wrote:

That looks interesting. I might have to consider that down the line. It

is

an unfinished basement, which is a project I am looking forward to doing.
My first project will be to put in a deck and fence in the backyard.

-Mike

On Nov 1, 2007 12:41 PM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



If the basement is still unfinished, you can still do the under floor
heating
http://www.radiantdirect.com/photo_gallery.php
http://www.warmzone.com/retrofit-radiant-heat.asp
http://www.radiantec.com/index.php
http://www.radiantcompany.com/details/joists.shtml


Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:31 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Water heaters

Thanks for the info. I feel much better about getting a gas home now.

:)

It is a new house, but it is already built, so I can't make any changes

to

it unless I do it myself.

-Mike

On Nov 1, 2007 11:35 AM, Paul Nelson <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Good point. Mike, if it's a brand new house, go with the in-floor


heating


tubes that use hot water. Heat the water with a boiler. Your dog will


love


the warm floors even more than you do.


Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 512-392-2577
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Buck Calabro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Water heaters



If gas is cheaper, I'm kind of surprised.


Gas is almost 40% cheaper in Upstate NY than electric for heat. The
advantage of electric is that it costs pennies to install and every
room is its own zone. My very personal preference is a gas-fired
steam radiator system. It adds moisture to the air and the radiators
stay warm for a long time.
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