Your right booth, lets keep the women locked up, barefoot and pregnant.
How long have you been in Oklahoma?
Your shirt is becoming more brown every day.
Gerald Magnuson
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On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:29 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Cheese Headcases - Wisconsin reveals the cost
of"universal" health care
So you believe then that your meds should be selected upon the basis of
boobalicious?
Gerald Magnuson wrote:
Sorry, at this point Doctors are still human.
Gerald Magnuson
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On Behalf Of Wayne McAlpine
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:16 PM
To: cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Cheese Headcases - Wisconsin reveals the cost
of"universal" health care
I would prefer that my doctor make decisions about what drugs to
prescribe based on his reading medical journals instead of his
appreciation of T&A.
rick baird wrote:
I believe the drug companies think they're worth it. why would they
pay that much if they weren't?
On 7/24/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
You believe that, do you, Rick?
rick baird wrote:
Is that the drug company's fault or the doctor's? It sounds like
they're well worth the $500k a year they're being paid, don't you
think?
On 7/24/07, Wayne McAlpine <wayne.mcalpine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
It's been my observation (and I've spent a lot of time in doctor's
offices) that most of the drug detail people are young women who
are,
shall we say, easy on the eyes. Getting in the door to see a busy
doctor isn't easy and I suspect that if I were selling drugs I
wouldn't
be nearly as successful as this corps of young ladies.
rick baird wrote:
I don't know booth. John's story about his friend is certainly
alarming, but sounds incomplete if not apocryphal. Is this
person
uneducated, or must she be able to speak intelligently on all
aspects
of the drugs she's promoting?
Is that rate of pay normal for the industry or is John's friend
special in some way?
If any salesman generates 50 million in sales (probably a low
number)
and consistently meet and beat their numbers each month and
quarter,
don't they deserve about 1% of net after bonuses and such?
I don't know what the going rate for sales is, but that sounds
pretty
competitive for salesmen in any industry.
On 7/24/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wage controls, Rick? Why not just plain wage competition? What
do you
suppose makes a girl worth $500k as a sales rep. Rick? But
beyond that,
why do drug companies need that kind of sales force? What other
industry pays those wages for selling skills?
rick baird wrote:
So John, are you coming out in favor of wage controls? Does
that go
for Doctors, Nurses, and Medical Technicians? How will you
feel
when
they decide IT professionals make too much?
Universal health care will not stop pharma companies from
paying
salesmen too much to promote their wares. Price controls on
drugs
might, but with only a few years to recoop R&D before patents
expire,
I think they'll still push for sales. Probably at the expense
of R&D.
All but the bravest will decide generics are where the real
money is
and dump R&D altogether - no way to make a decent return on
what
they
spend.
On 7/24/07, John Brandt <pgmr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is in the opinion section for a reason. I have a friend who
is in
"medical sales". She is a legal pusher. She makes almost $500K
per
year. AS
A SALESPERSON. She walks in, throws down some scratch pads,
makes a
deal
with the Doctors, leaves some samples and walks out. She works
3
days a
week.
Universal healthcare costs. Give her a real job making the 50K
she
should be
making, make the gouging on drugs, hospital stays and basic
care
stop and
let's see where the cost ends up.
John Brandt
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Behalf Of Jeff Crosby
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:07 AM
To: 'Open discussion among iSeries Users'
Subject: [CPF0000] Cheese Headcases - Wisconsin reveals the
cost
of"universal" health care
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010374
My sister and brother-in-law live in Wisconsin.
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Jeff Crosby
UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
P.O. Box 13369
Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
260-422-7531
The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the
opinion
of my
company. Unless I say so.
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