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Re: Another Gun Nut Runs Amok



Rick wrote:
"I don't think anyone at VT imagined this scenario would happen to
them."

Yet Someone did, they had a permit for conceal, and the School
Administration passed a rule banning weapons from school, even with a
permit.
The State house was going to pass a law making it illegal to have school
administration banning peoples 2nd amendment rights; with the help of
the anti-gun lobby, and VT administrators, the bill was killed in
committee.





-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of rick baird
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:37 PM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Another Gun Nut Runs Amok

so, because of your lack of commitment to the safety of firarms, you
feel it's not a good idea for you to carry a firearm. I commend you
for making a sensible choice.

but, as such, since you don't want to carry, you feel society should
prohibit everyone else from doing so as well. If it's not right for
you, it shouldn't be right for anyone?

The question isn't "can I imagine a scenario?" I don't think anyone
at VT imagined this scenario would happen to them. I have never been
in that situation either, and I don't carry a gun.

That is a personal choice, and one that fits me and my lifestyle. But
I would never impose my personal choice as the only way for everyone
else.

Why do you?

On 4/18/07, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well,to be explicit, Rick, I tend to clumsiness from time to time. If
I
had spent my life so far hangin' iron, I am pretty sure by now I would
have shot something or someone at least once by accident. That
doesn't
include dropping the weapon on my bare toes, crotch, or good
furniture.

In other words, my neighborhood would not be any safer if I were
carrying and might in fact be a good deal less safe.

As to needing the gun for defense.... man... I have never been in a
situation where I felt that showing a piece would move the situation
to
a safer and saner conclusion.





rick baird wrote:
I am curious how many emergencies one typically encounters that
would be
usefully resolved with a handgun? Or any weapon for that matter?
How
many times does one need a handgun to defend oneself when traveling
to
and from work for instance? Has anyone on this list ever been in a
situation where having a hand gun available would have been useful?


I am curious why you seem to feel that there should be a certain
number of emergencies one would have to encounter in order to
justify
protecting yourself.

Even if it occured only once in your lifetime, it would be worth it,
don't you think? As my dad said, it's better to have one and never
need it than to need one and not have it. He always had one, but
never once did he need it. was he a danger to society? No, he
wasn't. Was he justified in carrying a weapon with him at all
times?
Yes he was.

But more to the point, ask any of the gun owners among the students
and faculty in the VT classrooms attacked on monday the following 3
questions.

1) Do they wish they'd had theirs available at the time?

2) Do you think it's likely you will ever be in a situation like
this
ever again?

3) Do you plan to remain armed, or will you now give up your guns
since you won't need them anymore?

therein you will find your answer grasshopper.


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Booth Martin
http://www.Martinvt.com
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