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Re: OIG Issues Report estimates over 600, 000 Fugitive aliens in U. S. whereabouts unknown.



Stop changing the subject. How much does this cost the OK taxpayers?

Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 708-425-4198
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-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:43 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] OIG Issues Report estimates over 600, 000 Fugitive
aliens in U. S. whereabouts unknown.

Gosh, 10 billion. The amount that GW misplaced, in cash, in Iraq.
Somehow its sounds trivial when you say it that way. But of course,
since the organization is clearly anti-immigration then their reports
can be expected to support their own philosophy. Nothing new in that.

Paul Nelson wrote:
Thanks, Dave. Good catch.

This paragraph describes things even more accurately:

<<Total Deficit Created by Illegals.

If the estimated net fiscal drain of $2,736 a year that each illegal
household imposes on the federal treasury is multiplied by the nearly
three
million illegal households, the total cost comes to $10.4 billion a year.
Whether one considers this to be a large sum or not is, of course, a
matter
of perspective. But, this figure is unambiguously negative and certainly
not
trivial. It is also worth remembering that these figures are only for the
federal government and do not include any costs at the state or local
level,
where the impact is likely to be significant. >>

I'd be willing to bet that the 10 billion is exceeded at the state and
local
level.
Paul Nelson
Cell 708-670-6978
Office 708-425-4198
nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Dave Kahn
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:10 AM
To: Open discussion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] OIG Issues Report estimates over 600,000 Fugitive
aliens in U. S. whereabouts unknown.

On 03/04/07, fbocch2595@xxxxxxx <fbocch2595@xxxxxxx> wrote:

We don't need them. The economy will function with or without them. As

soon

as they leave I'll be the first to start a cleaning business.


I was about to argue against you but some preliminary research
indicates the situation is far more complex than I had realised, and
you may well be right. Although illegal immigrants provide a huge pool
of cheap labour, and mainly in jobs that other people don't want to
do, the associated costs exceed the benefit to the economy. A net
deficit to the federal budget of $2,700 per illegal household in 2002
according to a report from the Center for Immigration Studies.
<http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscal.html>.








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