Also, companies like Wal-Mart, that now pay very little and in fact give instructions to their employees on how to get welfare health care, will have to begin paying their share, too. It upsets me more that Wal-Mart is riding taxpayer coat tails than the illegals doing it.
I understand that the revenues will still be raised, but in a revenue neutral scenario, once Wal-Mart, MacDonald's and all the other low-wage employers start paying their fair share, the other employers will pay much less.
Albert York wrote:
One of the reasons that premiums are so high is because those with insurance have to pay for those who don't pay because the hospital has to get the money somewhere so they raise their rates. Illegal immigrants are making this problem much worse. They are putting a strain on our health care facilities. If we go to universal health care and we allow non-citizens to participate then we are just making another incentive for people to come here. Albert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Booth Martin" To: "Open discussion among iSeries Users" Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Regarding the hospital and taxpayer hassles Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:58:53 -0500 $8500 for a two person plan? What if you had children? But more to my point, how would any person without a job, or in between jobs, or working for an employer that doesn't provide the benefit ever hope to pay $8500/year? May I assume that $8500 is a group rate? Would an individual pay more for the same coverage? The impact on our health system is not from illegal immigrants; we have millions and millions of US citizens that can not afford medical insurance when premiums are approaching 100% of their income. Jones, John (US) wrote: > Over $8500 a year for my wife & I. Thankfully, my employer picks up the > bulk of it and my contribution is pre-tax. > > John A. Jones, CISSP > Americas Information Security Officer > Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. > V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 > john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Booth Martin > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:46 AM > To: Open discussion among iSeries Users > Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Regarding the hospital and taxpayer hassles > > The hospitals I have seen lately are far from broke. These places are > fast becoming more luxurious than any cruise ship afloat. > > I wonder if the real issue might lay in the way we distribute health > care. For many, many people, not just the poor, the ER has become the > only doctor. With $125 office visits, and every illness a referral to > multi-thousand dollar treatments, is it any wonder that any one without > insurance doesn't even try going to a clinic or family doctor? > > Those employers that offer health insurance are becoming rarer and even > they are asking for bigger and bigger deductions from employees, along > with larger and larger co-pays. > > What is the cost of a family plan now? Is it over $7,500/year yet? > > Mark Villa wrote: >> IIRC some were saying that illegal immigration has benefitted >> the economy as a whole, cheap goods and so on. Read this and >> tell me how? >> >> ---Open Letter to Immigrant New Yorkers from the mayor of NY and his > staff. >> http://www.nyc.gov/html/hhc/html/community/letter-to-immigrants.shtml >> >> ===== >> Under section 10.11 of the Federal Medicare Modernization Act of 2003, > >> one billion dollars is being spread among the country's health >> care facilities for treating uninsured illegal aliens over a >> four-year period. >> ===== >> This does not count state, local and your mystery rise in medical > premiums. >> Does this sound like encouragement to build more hospitals for >> the "rising tide". >> >> If so, why are hospitals closing or whining for additional money? > > -- > --------------------------------- > Booth Martin > http://www.Martinvt.com > --------------------------------- > -- > This is the Open discussion among iSeries Users (CPF0000) mailing list > To post a message email: CPF0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, > or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/cpf0000 > or email: CPF0000-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at > http://archive.midrange.com/cpf0000. > > > This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. 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