That isn't WMD so far as I know. One more ingredient is needed - the
ability to deliver.
Iraq had no means of delivering a true wmd, and as it turns out, really didn
t have any wmd, either.
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Booth Martin
http://www.martinvt.com
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-------Original Message-------
From: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Date: 11/07/05 09:34:59
To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Subject: RE: [CPF0000] Mother Cindy's lying Marine
Mike,
Clinton said we were attacking their "Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological
weapons programs."
If that's not WMD, I don't know what is.
Garrett
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[mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Mother Cindy's lying Marine
Garrett,
Did you notice how NONE of those quotes said that Iraq actually _had_ WMD?
Mike
On 11/7/05, rick baird <rick.baird@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> You're right. I think we need to have a full investigation on the
> faulty intelligence behind the following lies:
>
> "We Have To Defend Our Future From These Predators Of The 21st
> Century. They Feed On The Free Flow Of Information And Technology.
> They Actually Take Advantage Of The Freer Movement Of People,
> Information And Ideas. And They Will Be All The More Lethal If We
> Allow Them To Build Arsenals Of Nuclear, Chemical And Biological
> Weapons And The Missiles To Deliver Them. We Simply Cannot Allow That
> To Happen. There Is No More Clear Example Of This Threat Than Saddam
> Hussein's Iraq. His Regime Threatens The Safety Of His People, The
> Stability Of His Region And The Security Of All The Rest Of Us."
>
> and
>
> "Earlier Today I Ordered America's Armed Forces To Strike Military And
> Security Targets In Iraq... Their Mission Is To Attack Iraq's Nuclear,
> Chemical And Biological Weapons Programs And Its Military Capacity To
> Threaten Its Neighbors ..."
>
> and
>
> "You Know, In 1991, I Was One Of Those Who Put Partisanship Completely
> Aside And Supported President Bush At That Time In Launching The Gulf
> War. And In That War, We Saw How Saddam Had Threatened His Neighbors
> And Was Trying To Get Nuclear Weapons, Chemical Weapons, And
> Biological Weapons. And We're Not Going To Allow Him To Succeed."
>
> and
>
> "If You Allow Someone Like Saddam Hussein To Get Nuclear Weapons,
> Ballistic Missiles, Chemical Weapons, Biological Weapons, How Many
> People Is He Going To Kill With Such Weapons? He's Already
> Demonstrated A Willingness To Use These Weapons ..."
>
> and
>
> "I Voted For The Iraqi Resolution. I Consider The Prospect Of A
> Nuclear-Armed Saddam Hussein Who Can Threaten Not Only His Neighbors,
> But The Stability Of The Region And The World, A Very Serious Threat
> To The United States."
>
> and
>
> "In The Four Years Since The Inspectors, Intelligence Reports Show
> That Saddam Hussein Has Worked To Rebuild His Chemical And Biological
> Weapons Stock, His Missile Delivery Capability, And His Nuclear
> Program. ... It Is Clear, However, That If Left Unchecked, Saddam
> Hussein Will Continue To Increase His Capability To Wage Biological
> And Chemical Warfare And Will Keep Trying To Develop Nuclear Weapons."
>
> and
>
> "The Crisis Is Even More Threatening By Virtue Of The Fact That Iraq
> Has Developed A Chemical Weapons Capability, And Is Pursuing A Nuclear
> Weapons Development Program."
>
> and then, after we've investigated where Bill Clinton, Al Gore,
> Hillary Clinton and John Kerry got this bogus intelligence, we cam
> move on the the other 43 democrat senators who all said similar things
> in the run up to the war.
>
> Rick
>
> On 11/7/05, Jones, John (US) <John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Maybe he wants to run for President. Can you say "Iraq has WMD?"
> >
> > --
> > John A. Jones, CISSP
> > Americas Information Security Officer
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Garrett Stegink
> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:46 AM
> > To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> > Subject: RE: [CPF0000] Mother Cindy's lying Marine
> >
> > Maybe he's planning on running for the Senate in Massachusetts?
> >
> > Garrett
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rick baird
> > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:37 PM
> > To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> > Subject: [CPF0000] Mother Cindy's lying Marine
> >
> >
> > For more than a year, one of Saint Cindy's traveling entourage has been
> > a former marine who's been telling stories about the attrocities being
> > committed by our troops in Iraq.
> >
> > The problem is, it's all a lie. But then, the truth isn't nearly as
> > important as the story, is it?
> >
> > Reminds me of the Vietnam Vets against the War. it doesn't matter that
> > they lied, they spoke a greater truth! one that doesn't need facts to
> > be true.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/8trsd
> >
> >
> > "News organizations worldwide published or broadcast Massey's claims
> > without any corroboration and in most cases without investigation.
> > Outside of the Marines, almost no one has seriously questioned whether
> > Massey, a 12-year veteran who was honorably discharged, was telling the
> > truth.
> >
> > He wasn't.
> >
> > Each of his claims is either demonstrably false or exaggerated -
> > according to his fellow Marines, Massey's own admissions, and the five
> > journalists who were embedded with Massey's unit, including a reporter
> > and photographer from the Post-Dispatch and reporters from The
> > Associated Press and The Wall Street Journal."
> >
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