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Re: Durbin's tells it like it is. Maybe now we canhavesometruth, eh?



wrong Booth.  You've not shown me a bit of evidence that we do any of
those things as a matter of policy.  not a shred.

talk to me when you have the goods.

and no, it's not volume, it's degree.  no.where.near.the.degree.  
period.  to suggest otherwise is simply wishful thinking on your part.

On 6/16/05, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> wrong Rick.  The evidence is that we torture regularly and harshly.  we
> murder, we rape boys.  we outsource our horrendous torture jobs to countries
> we label as despotic.  No, we don't have the volume of say, a Hitler or
> Stalin, but we do the same things.  So..  the issue in your mind is one of
> volume?  We don't do much, so its ok?
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Booth Martin
> http://www.martinvt.com
> ---------------------------------
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> Date: 06/16/05 16:29:21
> To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Durbin's tells it like it is. Maybe now we
> canhavesometruth, eh?
> 
> I'm responding to your words.
> 
> The treatment of the detainees amply demonstrates the care that is
> taken to not harm detainees.  it shows how the military IS following
> US laws against brutal torture.  It shows that we DO respect them much
> more than our enemies respect us.
> 
> on a scale of one to ten, with america at 1 and pol pot at 10, it's about a
> 1.1
> 
> period.
> 
> 
> On 6/16/05, Michael Jacobsen <MJacobsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Are you responding to what I just said (my scale comparison) or did you
> > just ignore that and respond to Durbin's words?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > no I don't.  not even close.  Not even as close as a million lives.
> > > or 5 million lives.  or 20 million lives.
> > >
> > > not even close.  and to use that sort of rhetoric is the worst
> > > possible dehumanization of those who really suffered under Hitler,
> > > Stalin, Pol Pot and yes, even Saddam.
> > >
> > > On 6/16/05, Michael Jacobsen <MJacobsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > On a scale with America on one end and evil regime on the other,
> > chaining
> > > > prisonors to the floor with no food & water in extreme temperatures
> > falls
> > > > much closer to the evil regime side than America.  Don't you think so?
> >  I
> > > > think that was the point he was trying to make.
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