I take it from your remarks that you used to be against Unions? As a
working man, that seems a belief in something other than your own best
interests. Why would a person ever believe in something that was against
his own interests?
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Booth Martin
http://www.martinvt.com
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From: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Date: 05/05/05 09:13:55
To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
Subject: Re: [CPF0000] Abolitionists, slavery, conservatives, liberals,
Amistad", ...
Booth is right. Being a newly minted Liberal, I now believe without
critical thinking, that the more despicable the viewpoint, the more
conservative that viewpoint must be.
One simple rule - If it's selfish, greedy or repressive, it must be
right-wing.
Thanks again for showing me the way Booth. It's so much easier to see
the world from your viewpoint. Now, where's my checkbook, I want to
send off donations to the Bubba Clinton library, planned parenthood
and the teacher's union.
Oh yeah, and a campaign donation to the smartest woman in the world, Hillary
On 5/5/05, Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I repeat, in that day and that time, in relation to the Liberal -
> Conservative spectrum, the people you speak of were Liberals not
> Conservatives. Yes, they believed the things you say, but still, they
were
> Liberals in comparison to those around them.
>
> There are many, many Christians today that are Liberals. Probably about
the
> same 50% that is typical of the rest of America,
>
> ---------------------------------
> Booth Martin
> http://www.martinvt.com
> ---------------------------------
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> Date: 05/04/05 21:23:04
> To: Open discssion among iSeries Users
> Subject: [CPF0000] Abolitionists, slavery, conservatives, liberals,
Amistad
> , ...
>
> I'll grab this chance to give credit where credit is due. Steven
> Spielberg's movie "Amistad" did a great service to the truth in history,
> where not only are the Christians portrayed properly as the most vocal
> and determined anti-slavery crusaders, but it even allowed a portrayal
> of the true Christian message, in the scene where one of the enslaved
> shows the other the message of the suffering and teachings of Christ,
> his crucifixion, and his Resurrection from the pix in the Bible.
>
> >The Abolitionists didn't come from the conservative churches, and in fact
> many of the conservative churches of the time spoke regularly of how God
> condoned slavery and used the Bible to prove it.
> >
> >
> Let me repeat what you snipped out. The Christian abolitionists, who
> were the driving force, (1) were pro-life and considered abortion as
> murder much more emphatically than is possible in the U.S. today, (2)
> were emphatic in their stance on monogamy, (as evidenced in their
> vehement opposition to Mormon polygamy of the time), (3) were from
> churches that (along with the general populace) considered homosexuality
> so disgusting that they used the term "that unspeakable practice", (4)
> loudly proclaimed the very Christian and Biblical basis for their
> condemnation of slavery, and so *no problem at all* pushing Biblical
> truths into public and government policy.
>
> Now if somebody came into a discussion with you today that held these
> principles to heart, what would you call them Booth? Liberal?
>
> Hahahahahahahahaha. You can be funny.
>
> (By the way, Ted Kennedy is proof of the old Bible verse in Proverbs,
> "the liberal sould shall be made fat".
>
> - Alan (somewhat overweight himself)
>
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