I agree with both of you. I also think that if every unemployed stock holder
were to RSVP and attend the stock holder's meeting, the company might
collapse from the weight of the number of rooms required to hold all of the
stock holders.
"Decisions are made by those who show up."
John Brandt
iStudio400.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Lewis [mailto:clewis@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:45 AM
To: 'Open discssion among iSeries Users'
Subject: RE: [CPF0000] Good new, bad news about Hewlett-Packard and
American Workers...
That's what I've felt for a long time Steve - this is REALLY going to come
around and bite us/the U.S. BAD - maybe latter than sooner, I don't know.
Someone wrote into Network World this week and noted that a CIO story had
quoted a guy that was a consultant from Chennai, India who touts giving work
to "an Indian with an Ivy League education working in India at $10,000 per
year" as more advantageous than employing "an American night schooler who
demands $70,000 per year".
So this writer proposing "...outsourcing ALL executive positions from the
board of directors down to India. I figure companies could pay each, say,
$30,000 per year. If a dozen execs at a company making an average of $10
million a year ($120 million total) are replaced by 12 Indians ($360,000)
this would produce a savings of $119,640,000! I say include upper management
in outsourcing".
So maybe he is on to something and we should all attend the stock holders
meeting(s) for whatever stock we hold and be prepared with our own figures
relevant to that company on this and "get the mike" ! ;-)
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpf0000-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Landess
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:28 AM
To: cpf0000@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [CPF0000] Good new,bad news about Hewlett-Packard and American
Workers...
Stanford University classmates Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard founded
HP in 1939. The company's first product, built in a Palo Alto garage,
was an audio oscillator-an electronic test instrument used by sound
engineers. One of HP's first customers was Walt Disney Studios,
which purchased eight oscillators to develop and test an
innovative sound system for the movie Fantasia. This came from
H-P's web site at http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/
Cut to the future...64 years later...
In 2003 H-P announced that they are building a new R&D facility in
Singapore. John McHugh of H-P told the Straits Times that HP
"looked at its ability" to recruit skilled engineers in Sacramento and
the Bay Area. He said after it had gazed into this particular HP navel,
it became apparent it needed to "tap into a broader workforce".
See full article here:
<http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/NewsletterArchive/2003/2003%2008-06%20%20%20
%20Silicon%20Valley%20Lacks%20Talented%20Engineers.txt>
IF above link is broken, click here: http://makeashorterlink.com/?T56921F07
Amazing!
You're telling ME that H-P can't find enough skilled engineers
in the SILICON VALLEY? Did someone drop a tactical nuke there?
The Good News:
Apparently Carly Fiorina (CEO of Hewlett-Packard) believes in
some form of higher power, a "God".
The Bad News:
Last week at the meeting of the Computer Systems Policy Institute
Carly Fiorina was quoted as saying "There is no job that is America's
god given right anymore." So it seems that her "God" is the almighty
Dollar...
I bet Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard are turning over in their graves about
now!
I still have a couple of working H-P printers that I'm going to use until
they expire, but I hope everyone will join me and vote with their
pocketbook, and let Ms. Fiorina know likewise that Hewlett-Packard
has NO "God-given right" to any more of OUR MONEY until they
start making rational, not just bottom-line decisions in regard to
their American workforce.
I know that most of the technology companies' products are no longer
made in the United States, but I have made my choice in this matter.
Please Don't Buy any more HP products until H-P starts creating
new American jobs...hiring American citizens on THIS shore!
I prefer Canon cameras anyway!
Steve Landess
Austin, Texas
(512) 423-0935
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>From Lou Dobbs Tonight, January 7, 2004:
<snip>
In a report released just today, chief executives from some of this
country's leading technology company defended their exporting of American
jobs to cheap overseas labor markets. The CEO's are members of the something
called the Computer System Policy Project. It's an advocacy organization for
the technology industry. It's made up of CEOs of such companies as Dell
Computer, Hewlett Packard, IBM, Intel, and Motorola. That group argues that
moving the jobs to cheaper foreign labor market helps them break into
markets where they believe students perform better than American students in
subjects such as science and math. The report says, quote, "Americans who
think that foreign workers are no match for U.S. workers in knowledge,
skills and creativity are mistaken."
I don't know anyone that thinks that but nonetheless said. But what I didn't
know what Carly Fiorina the CEO of HP and a member of the group says, this
one really did surprise me. "There is no job that is America's god given
right anymore." That's going to take some digesting and I assure you we will
start digesting it in the days and weeks ahead here.
</snip>
Read the full transcript here:
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/07/ldt.00.html
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