Re: Hi

8 programmers and 1 release engineer were laid off and the total number of 
folks in the buiding is now about 30 folks.  
 
I can't speak to why it happened but we made $ and are (currently) a software 
company with 90% iSeries customers.
 
Those fat, dumb, and happy folks will appreciate that.  Their fat/dumb/happy 
kids may have to pay their own way thru college now as the fat/dumb/happy folks 
try to pay their mortgage.    
 
Something is not right.  The prez of my company and other senior managers make 
nice bonuses whether we do well or not.  Selling out their fellow americans to 
make more for themselves or to reduce the bottom line to sell the company seems 
to be what they're all about and maybe it's the american way.  It's not the 
america that I want though.  
 
On top of that the overseas folks come here to be trained by us.  
 
This situation has to change, cause I'm feelin a little fat/dumb and happy 
myself.   
 
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:08:44 -0600
Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi


Are you suggesting that the only changes were the replacement of 9 
programmers?  And that the result was a change from losses to profits?

May I add this?  Sometimes a team gets fat, dumb and happy.  Ford Motor 
is laying off 30,000 people and closing 10 plants.   One of the reasons 
given is the abnormally high cost of an entrenched work force.  Health 
care costs are becoming punitive unless a company has a young, never 
sick work force.



fbocch2595@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Is it a true statement that if salary and/or expenses have to be cut then how 
better to do that then with replacing experienced and more expensive citizens 
with less expensive, not experienced aliens?  
>  
> My last company laid of 9 programmers w/average tenure of 10 years, in favor 
of over seas folks...and we made $ last year.    
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Consulting on the iSeries / AS400 <consult400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:33:13 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Consult400] Hi
> 
> 
> Well said, John, but add this:  Those three $25K programmers are 
> energized.  In 5 years they're going to be good, real good.
> 
> John Earl wrote:
> ...
>> I'm not making a value judgment on whether this is good or bad, I'm just
>> stating that it is what it is.  If your current salary is $75K and you
>> want to sustain it, ask yourself what are you doing that couldn't be
>> replicated by 3 off-shore workers that are happy to work for $25K?  
>>
>> Answer that question successfully (and lot's of people do), and you
>> won't need any government to "protect" your job.
>>
>> jte
>>
>>
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>> John Earl | Chief Technology Officer
>> The PowerTech Group
>> 19426 68th Ave. S
>> Seattle, WA 98032
>> (253) 872-7788 ext. 302
>> john.earl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> www.powertech.com 
>>  
>>
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