Re: BPCS-L Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44

Hi Genyphyr,

Just want to make sure I am getting this right...  Are you saying
because the green screen is restricted to less space (Curr vs.
Currency), that the GUI must follow suit?  Please advise when you get a
chance.  Thx. 

Regards,

DeeDee Virgei
Project Leader

Nelson Stud Welding, Inc. 

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Subject: Re: [BPCS-L] BPCS-L Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44

Hi, 

In a note from Milt on LX, this sentence is completely incorrect:
 "It's all GUI. To tell you the truth, green screen looks prettier. The
font SSA uses universally and the screen layouts and graphic elements
Employed are anything but attractive ... certainly not easy on the
eyes."

ERP LX is not all GUI. There is a choice of green screen or a Web
interface and both can be run over the same display programs (i.e. no
separate library lists). Because it is still based on green screen, this
can explain some of the other things such as shortened fields for
descriptions (Curr .vs Currency). Maybe they were only demo-ing the new
UI in Web, but definitely you can still run the old green screens if you
like.

Take care,

Genyphyr Novak
Senior System Software Engineer
SSA Global R&D
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. BPCS maintenance (Milt Habeck)
   2. BPCS 4.1.5 (BOB LORING)
   3. BPCS ERP LX --- my 60,000 foot point of view (Milt Habeck)
   4. Re: BPCS ERP LX --- my 60,000 foot point of view (DeeDee Virgei)
   5. Re: BPCS Questionnaire - Formica (David Gibbs)
   6. Re: BPCS Questionnaire - Formica (Al Mac)


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message: 3
date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:16:07 -0600
from: "Milt Habeck" <mhabeck@xxxxxxxxxx>
subject: [BPCS-L] BPCS ERP LX --- my 60,000 foot point of view

Hi ...

I've recently had an opportunity to look at an SSA presentation of LX
functionality. It was a fairly good look over a three day period. The
objective of SSA in this presentation was to persuade a potential
upgrade candidate that LX addressed a long compilation of needs
identified by that company (a company that currently is at the v4
level).

Here are my general impressions and opinions, in no particular order:

a. It's all GUI. To tell you the truth, green screen looks prettier. The
font SSA uses universally and the screen layouts and graphic elements
employed are anything but attractive ... certainly not easy on the eyes.

b. More on the screen display .... SSA uses, at most, 5/8ths of the
vertical dimension of the screen. The bottom of the screen is wasted
white space that just holds a small box for function keys. Net result: a
display with multiple lines of information requires lots of screen
paginations to see anything.

c. Last on the screen display: not so user friendly on the field labels.
The field on one A/R report specification screen is labeled "Curr."
Well,
if you know the fields in the database, you could guess that Curr meant
"currency" ... but if you're less savvy, you might think it meant
"current."
There's more than enough room on that part of the screen to spell out
"Currency Type" .... but what shows up is plenty of white space and just
the four letters "Curr."  This issue is prevalent in all BPCS modules.

d. Functionality distinctions between v6 and v8 for modules that already
exist in v6 are pretty minor. Examples include longer field lengths for
some things (like customer PO number and item class and/or type). Cost
accounting functionality is identical to v4.05CD (except for the GUI
presentation).

e. The new functionality has mostly arrived in the form of bolt-ons and
a generous percentage of those don't run on the iSeries platform. They
are pieces of software that SSA has acquired and re-branded as part of
"LX"

f. They have a nice financial budgeting bolt-on which looks to be well
integrated with the BPCS G/L. It's an application of Cognos. My opinion
is that a BPCS user could get the same functionality on v6.x if they
wanted to buy that part of Cognos or if SSA wants to license the bolt-on
to
non-v8.3
users.

    By the way, integration with non-G/L parts of BPCS isn't there
    and isn't claimed. Oliver Wight, if he was alive, could write a book
    on the integration possibilities into non-G/L parts of BPCS that
    have not been exploited.

g. LX comes with a package of hundreds of pre-programmed reports and/or
performance metric analyses that do not exist in v6. These reports are
generated by Cognos off a data repository which is extracted from BPCS
(not real time).
Now, in my opinion, before using most of these reports or metrics, you'd

want to
dig into the logic to make sure that the report was consistent with the
way you wanted to run your business.

    Example: I've seen customer service level defined many, many
    different ways and SSA's definition is unlikely to be accidently
consistent
    with your company's private definition. Now, if you're going to
invest the
    time to go through all these reports/metrics before using them, then
    you could do this yourself on v6 or even v4 ... if you had a Cognos
    license.

h. Examples of other bolt-ons include sales forecasting/demand planning,
logistics planning, and rule-driven/constraint-savvy manufacturing
planning.
My impression is that if a company needed this kind of functionality to
run their business better, then that company would be well advised to do
a software selection analysis within each specific software market
segment rather than just presuming that SSA had acquired the IP for the
"best of breed" in each of those segments.

     Here's my strongly-held opinion about these bolt-ons:

         Let's say a BPCS v6 company could earn a huge ROI from better
logistics
         planning (for example) .... then, in my opinion, the better
idea would be to
         immediately invest in a best-of-breed logistics package and
knit that to
         BPCS v6.

        That seems like it would help the enterprise more/faster than
SSA's
        idea of buying v8.3/LX.

        If you go out and buy LX for the privilege of implementing the
logistics
        software brand that SSA happened to purchase .... then your
company has to
        go through the arduous version migration steps for business
processes that
        already work just fine in v6  BEFORE  your company gets any
traction on what
        would really generate an ROI (e.g. logistics planning).


i. SSA claims to have made some effort to clean up the RPG code
generated by AS/SET. AS/SET is gone.

     In response to a question about this, the SSA presenter showed us
     screen shots of part of the code for one RPG program. Someone who
     knew RPG in the room was able to find a place where in line 2500x a
     value was assigned to a variable but before that variable was used,
the
     value was replaced in line 2500x+2 with something else.

     So, in my view, the maintainability of the v8.3 RPG code should
     not be considered a fully resolved issue. Anyone who has seen the
     cryptic nature of AS/SET-generated RPG code will probably want to
     review an ample, randomly-selected sample of LX RPG source
     before arriving at any firm maintainability opinions.

j. They've added hundreds of "exit points" in the source at places where
they believe users might want to insert customizations. It's like
pre-inserted subroutine calls that can either be used or ignored.  The
intent is to keep the virgin code un-mingled with BPCS customizations so
that adoption of future upgrades is not impeded by the customizations.
It's
new, interesting, creative and it might work for quite a few things. .

k. In LX, ELKE has been re-named (EAM? I forget) and it looks like the
integration back into BPCS purchasing has been substantially improved.
Other
integration is still pending.

      Example: planned production machine maintenance time period info
      doesn't look like it gets over into a place where Capacity
Planning could
      incorporate that planned downtime into CRP calculations. I'll
admit in advance
      that my memory on that detailed point isn't as good as it should
be.



This is way too long already, so I'll stop.
If anyone wants to talk about this subject, please give me a call.

Warm regards and peace to you,
Milt Habeck
Managing Partner
Unbeaten Path International

(888) 874-8008
www.unpath.com

message: 4
date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:42:26 -0500
from: "DeeDee Virgei" <DeeDee.Virgei@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
subject: Re: [BPCS-L] BPCS ERP LX --- my 60,000 foot point of view


Thank you Milt!  I, REALLY appreciated your unbiased views...

In a nut shell, after reading through literally 1000 of enhancements, I
too was most interested in the added exit points and would love to learn
more about how they work, how reliable they are, if they can also be
used as entrance points...  My thinking is, if these exit (and I think
entrance) points work the way I hope, then we would be able to choose
from other best-of-breed/boltons in addition to what SSA has to offer.
I know that sounds like SSA w/b shooting them selves in the foot, but
that would make their ERP product much easier to interface w/ (FYI, that
is what the 'i' in iSeries stands for...).  

I still have 'a general web presentation on LX functionality' on my SSA
wish list...

Thanks again Milt.

Best Regards,

DeeDee Virgei
Project Leader

Nelson Stud Welding, Inc. 

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