Re: For those moving off BPCS

Just a word to those of you thinking of moving off of BPCS.  I am in the middle 
of an ERP implementation of 22 plants throughout North America.  The ERP system 
is not BPCS and after working with BPCS for 10 years as well as other ERP 
systems.  I wish the company I am working for choose BPCS or an application 
that had half the functionality of BPCS.  I always said ERP is ERP and all the 
application have similar functionality, in most cases very true, but not with 
all.  So be very caution, because you are probably going to find out the grass 
is not greener on the other side of the fence.  It is still green and the new 
software company will have the same functionality, their support sucks, the 
maintenance is costly, they will stop supporting your version and you are going 
to modify it.  
 
And also remember the ROI comes from the business process improvement that 
takes place during the implementation not from the application as the software 
vendor is going to tell you.
 
Regards,
 
Dave 

helen@xxxxxxxxx wrote:




I really agree with Sally. Constructive criticism, problem solving, and
tips & techniques are helpful to all who are using BPCS. However,.....BPCS
bashing is helpful to whom?

Helen Hull
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Group Dekko Services LLC
(260)-347-3100 ext 70703



"Sally Bosman" 

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08/06/2003 10:47 AM 
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Correct me if I'm wrong - but I thought this was meant to be a BPCS List
...
not an anti-BPCS list?!

Sally

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Director - Small Blue Ltd
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Statt Craig" 
To: "SSA's BPCS ERP System" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: For those moving off BPCS


> To All,
>
> My company is an iSeries BP who has partnered with VAI Vormitagg
Associates
> as a ERP/MRP solutions provider. We are BP in North East US. We have
had
> success with migrating some industries over to this product, but I am
> curious what type of exposure VAI has in the industry.
>
> Has anyone who has looked at ERP / MRP for as/400 ever look into VAI's
> System 2000? and what was your impression of the product.
>
> More importantly anybody current implemented or have experience with VAI
> that you can share with me?
>
> Thanks
>
> Craig
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clare Holtham" 
> To: "SSA's BPCS ERP System" 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Upgrade to v5r2 with BPCS v5.101
>
>
> > Nathan,
> >
> > True, however IBM said when they provided it for V5R1 that they would
not
> > provide it for V5R2. They have though....
> >
> > Clare
> >
> > Clare Holtham
> > Director, Small Blue Ltd - Archiving for BPCS
> > Web: www.smallblue.co.uk
> > IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Professional
> > E-Mail: Clare.Holtham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Mobile: +44 (0)7960 665958
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nathan Bennett" 
> > To: "SSA's BPCS ERP System" 
> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: Upgrade to v5r2 with BPCS v5.101
> >
> >
> > > Please bear in mind the QAQQINI 'solution' provided by IBM is
temporary.
> > No
> > > promise that they won't remove the supress warning option where you
> select
> > > more fields than you have defined to receive.
> > >
> > > Ultimately you will need to change the code.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bpcs-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Clare Holtham
> > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:48 PM
> > > To: SSA's BPCS ERP System
> > > Subject: Re: Upgrade to v5r2 with BPCS v5.101
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, I have helped several clients upgrade to V5r1 and V5r2 with
> versions
> > of
> > > BPCS that were not 'fixed'. The only thing you have to do is make a
> small
> > > change to QAQQINI to tell the system to ignore SQL errors. You do
have
> to
> > > ensure you have all required PTFs beforehand though, and this means
cum
> > plus
> > > Database Group plus any extras, check the latest ones on the IBM
> website.
> > > Also you need to run the STROBJCVN against all the objects, otherwise
> you
> > > can get locking problems as the objects are dynamically converted on
> first
> > > use, causing BPCS programs to fall over. The upgrade takes a long
> weekend!
> > > V5R2 is better than V5R1. It's a good idea to upgrade all the client
> > access
> > > at the same time. If your client has different languages on the
system
> > this
> > > could cause a few problems too. If you would like more details or
help,
> > > contact me offline,
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > Clare
> > >
> > > Clare Holtham
> > > Director, Small Blue Ltd - Archiving for BPCS
> > > Web: www.smallblue.co.uk
> > > IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Professional
> > > E-Mail: Clare.Holtham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Mobile: +44 (0)7960 665958
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Statt Craig" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:26 PM
> > > Subject: Upgrade to v5r2 with BPCS v5.101
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear All;
> > > >
> > > > I have a customer that has heard not so good stories about
upgrading
> to
> > > V5R2
> > > > while running BPCS v5.101 due to 5.101s inbedding of the SQL.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any experience in this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
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