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To reduce the amount of time the user community is "locked out" due to nightly MRP runs consider replacing these process with a RPM module. RPM runs typically require less than 15 minutes a night so the time window when users are locked out is substantially reduced. Also the business benefits realized from the RPM community are substantial. Contact me off list for a more extensive discussion. Roy Luce Main: 847-540-9635 Cell: 847-910-0884 Fax: 208-330-9032 Email: lwl@ix.netcom.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jedrzejewicz @ San Pedro [SMTP:TJedrzejewicz@contessa.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:29 AM To: bpcs-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: 24 hour operation This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have worked in several PRMS shops where essentially 24-hour access is required. In each place we negotiated a time for backups -- 2nd shift lunch or 3rd shift lunch made sense. Then we wrote a program which varied off QINTER, submitted the backup using Save-while-active, checked for the "checkpoint", and restarted QINTER when the checkpoint was found. If system activity is low, the checkpoint processing can be remarkably fast; an hour of downtime for the backup. If you need MRP nightly, that may take more time. We also negotiated a weekly window for full system save (typically Sunday night) and automated it as well, and included a full system save in the monthend processing. And finally, we put a standalone STRSBS QINTER in the scheduler for 6am or so just in case there was a problem. The first time I set this up I was not prepared, and it took a lot of negotiating. The second time I was prepared, and it went very smoothly. You will want to have the programs done now; once the decision is made they will start quickly. If you are prepared and tell them how it will work you are more likely to get what you require without as much resistance. Do not budge on the need for DAILY backups; you may be able to wiggle on nightly MRP, or run it at a different window. Good luck. >>> cjboril@meadwestvaco.com 05/26/02 05:59AM >>> Do have any window in which BPCS can be down? >>> Cdoe@barton-instruments.com 05/24 4:43 PM >>> we are contemplating adding a graveyard shift. this would mean that we would need to have BPCS available on a 24 hour basis for inquires, inventory, and labor posting. we need to run MRP and several other batch jobs that access the BPCS files each night. plus we need to do the daily data base backups on the as/400. who has experience with this type of an environment? can you share any thought, what to do's, or what not to do's? sincerely charles doe barton instrument systems _______________________________________________ This is the SSA's BPCS ERP System (BPCS-L) mailing list To post a message email: BPCS-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/bpcs-l or email: BPCS-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/bpcs-l. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------- Note: Please update your email address for this user to reflect the new MeadWestvaco Corporation. 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