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  • Subject: FW: Re[2]: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic?
  • From: jaliberty@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:23:09 -0500

This is a really boring topic-can we drop it.

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From:  Kevin_Catlin@GM.cytec.com[SMTP:Kevin_Catlin@GM.cytec.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:31 PM
To:  BPCS-L@midrange.com
Subject:  Re[2]: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic?

     
     Bill
     
     My assumption is that you are an IT professional and not an 
     intellectual property lawyer.  I think you're talking "out of school" 
     here and suggest you leave such opinions to the legal experts.
     
     Further, if your license explicitly restricts you to operate the 
     software on a particular AS/400, then that defines your rights in no 
     uncertain terms.  If you don't like the terms of your license, then 
     shame on you for signing it.
     
     My opinion on this discussion is that it is frivolous and that we 
     should move on to matters of greater importance.
     
     Kevin


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Subject: Re: Is it possible to crack the BPCS Key logic?  
Author:  BPCS-L@midrange.com at Internet
Date:    10/11/2000 11:05 AM


Elsberry,
     
> Breaking a software key logic is a 'moral' issue.
     
No it's not, not on it's own.  Breaking the logic in order to get something 
not paid for would be.
     
>  Stealing, no matter what the motive, is still stealing.
     
Agreed.  But we haven't been talking about stealing have we?  We've been 
talking about overriding the security check.
     
>  In the 10 years that I have worked with SSA,
> and 5 for them, I have never seen them be so unreasonable as to deny a
> permanent key to someone just because they won't pay on-going support for 
a
> non-supported older version.
     
Do you still have contacts there?  Call them up and ask them their current 
standing on this issue, and make sure you talk to the holders of the keys. 
If by chance you get the answer that goes against what I have proposed, ask 
them if they ever held that stance this year.  If they reply it has never 
been their policy to withhold the key, then they are lying.  If they reply 
that their current policy is as I have represented it, what is your stance 
then?
     
> If you have to rationalize why you're doing something like this, it is 
> probably to appease your own conscience and not to support some flimzy 
> business reason.
     
Hmm, I would think being unable to operate software that was legally 
licensed would not be a flimzy business reason; maybe your business is 
different.
     
Bill
     
     
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