RE: the ASSET issue again

Hi Ho.
        Actually final Hi Ho.

        It's been a blast folks. 

BPCS-LMidrange is a service to exchange BPCS experience and tricks of the
trade. I hope I helped a few of you with certain submissions of mine. I
probably insulted a few of my colleagues with that ASSET/ADK versus RPG
comparison, for that I'm sorry. 

        
> ----------
> From:         L. S. Russell[SMTP:leslier@datrek.com]
> Reply To:     BPCS-L@midrange.com
> Sent:         Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:05 AM
> To:   BPCS-L@midrange.com
> Subject:      Re: the ASSET issue again
> 
> Dean, I got a BMR not a month ago with RPG code.
> 
> DAsmussen@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > Leslie,
> > 
> > In a message dated 9/19/00 1:27:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > leslier@datrek.com writes:
> > 
> > > I am basing my opinons on reading the source code on our system, would
> > >  you like some samples?
> > >  You seem to think AS/SET is god's gift to software design, it really
> is
> > >  just a flawed tool that generates what can only be described as a
> > >  pitiful excuse for RPG.
> > 
> > Number one, if you have source code one your system and no AS/Set, you
> have
> > some very old code.  SSA hasn't distributed RPG code for a couple of
> years
> > now -- you must generate it out of AS/Set today.
> > 
> > Number two, nobody that has spent any time with it thinks that AS/Set is
> > God's gift to software design.  It _does_ generate a pitiful excuse for
> RPG;
> > HOWEVER, many people on this thread have gone so far as to denigrate
> AS/Set
> > as not even being a CASE tool.  You're WRONG if you think this, and the
> > design aspect of the conversation explains that several of you do not
> even
> > know what a CASE tool is.  AS/Set is a "lower CASE" tool, a code
> generator
> > that needs a decent database generator.  Design appears as a part of
> "upper
> > CASE", which AS/Set never purported to offer (although SSA hinted at
> > integrating such tools at one time).
> > 
> > If you have empty subroutines, either you coded them wrong or SSA coded
> them
> > wrong.  Empty subroutines in a program that will actually compile
> generally
> > indicate an EXSUBR to a routine that has been wholly commented out.
> This is
> > to prevent an error during RPG compilation for the generated EXSR
> keyword
> > when said S/R does not exist.
> > 
> > >  Who cares wht the Action diagram looks like, it can be perfect and
> > >  AS/SET will still generate bloated and unreadble RPG.
> > <<snip>>
> > 
> > Bloated, yes.  Quite readable if you follow the rules and know what
> you're
> > looking for, though.  Frankly, I've seen _far_ worse code from so-called
> > "AS/400 Professionals"...
> > 
> > JMHO,
> > 
> > Dean Asmussen
> > Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
> > Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
> > E-mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
> > 
> > "Anyone who is not liberal in their youth has no heart.  Anyone who is
> not
> > conservative in their adulthood has no brain." -- Winston Churchill
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